newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:30 amDoes the typical expat teacher really look like that?

most are not so well dressed

jubo2 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:21 am Making a drama for nothing again !
just like the virus. So stupid to lock the world for few mostly old and already sick people who could die...
I hate this ridiculous world !

Tell that to the over 100,000 people that have died, including many young people.

hanno wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:54 amTell that to the over 100,000 people that have died, including many young people.

friend got banned on FB for a week for telling a guy in Ohio he was an idiot.

the guy protested any lockdown, said corona was 'almost harmless'

AndyKK wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:56 am Looks to me, that they are taking a brake with getting back to nature, it something that very few Khmer do. I have only seen tents for sale over the past few years, but I must say I would not know were to pitch it without being pestered by someone.

So true ! But maybe these places exist and we don't know ? In Thailand maybe

jubo2 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:41 pm

AndyKK wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:56 am Looks to me, that they are taking a brake with getting back to nature, it something that very few Khmer do. I have only seen tents for sale over the past few years, but I must say I would not know were to pitch it without being pestered by someone.

So true ! But maybe these places exist and we don't know ? In Thailand maybe

Thailand is that of another country like our own countries where there are laws on were you can camp or not camp. I think the subject would end up confusing here to say the least. I have a few Khmer friends who camp on their bike rides. But never get good answers on the subject. No official camp sites, only fly camping, but a few resorts now have tents set up has a room to rent.

Camping on a boat Andy 'take you places unworried by rules.

SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:13 pm Camping on a boat Andy 'take you places unworried by rules.

This is so true, its started to go though my head most days.

As soon as they let us travel outside of Oz, Andy. (that's an invite)
It's great, you can take so much more than you normally can when camping - but still superbly as rough as guts.
If your "cook" is Khmer, she will never be happier, they usually love being on the water (all those fish!)
You can anchor outside the bug zone - and spend all your days right outside of the people zone.
Not to mention the wildlife, so much more to be seen than if you are stuck on land.
True freedom.
and the stars...

SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:41 pm As soon as they let us travel outside of Oz, Andy. (that's an invite)
It's great, you can take so much more than you normally can when camping - but still superbly as rough as guts.
If your "cook" is Khmer, she will never be happier, they usually love being on the water (all those fish!)
You can anchor outside the bug zone - and spend all your days right outside of the people zone.
Not to mention the wildlife, so much more to be seen than if you are stuck on land.
True freedom.
and the stars...

Your reading my mind, and those stars so bright look good

Andy, the guys camp either in the middle of nowhere, or in a village by asking for permission first and buying supplies from them. I've done it several times. I've also gone up Oral many times and you are expected to either take one of their local guides (helps provide them an income), or let them know when you're going and how long you'll be there. It's fair enough as they're the ones who end up saving people's lives if something goes wrong (and they've done it many times). They frequently get calls from authorities in PP that for example, a Korean guy is missing, did you guys see him? Then they have to go track him down on the mountain, totally lost and down to his underwear, quite dehydrated after five days. They're seen as "responsible" if someone dies. The place is also considered sacred in many ways.

I think for many long-term expats, the original allure of Cambodia was the lack of such "rules" that you might encounter in the west or Thailand. Unlike many years ago, the track is now easy to follow, even for inexperienced hikers. That being said, you should respect local customs and these two obviously aren't and will ruin it for everyone. I've slept in villages and villager's houses many times when in a pinch, but always ask prior and pay them, and obviously you shouldn't overstay your welcome. It doesn't matter if the two vegans think they're reconnecting with nature, they're obviously worrying the locals so should come to their senses and descend ASAP. There are common formalities to follow and I suspect they don't speak Khmer, adding to the confusion. It pisses me off because people acting selfishly like this is what makes new rules and bureaucracy emerge. They should have stuck to Kampot as mentioned beforehand.