A fond farewell(ish).
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Re: A fond farewell(ish).
No, I still stand by what I said on the good lawyer thread, that you did the right thing, and I still respect it, regardless of what happens in the future.
Here you assumed you knew what was going on and had ago at admin for being hypocrites, when the facts were totally in opposition to your assumption.
If you want a lifetime freebie because of one good action, or think I'm the guy who will ignore it when people are wrong, I'm not the guy you're looking for.
You may be right that it was harsh, that may be karma, or just my bad.
Here you assumed you knew what was going on and had ago at admin for being hypocrites, when the facts were totally in opposition to your assumption.
If you want a lifetime freebie because of one good action, or think I'm the guy who will ignore it when people are wrong, I'm not the guy you're looking for.
You may be right that it was harsh, that may be karma, or just my bad.
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Re: A fond farewell(ish).
Well, the facts are that right around the time that Samouth stopped translating articles under his own name, someone started translating the same type of articles for CEOCambodiaNews, using the same Khmer language sources, same reporting format, same writing style, and making the same syntax errors.vladimir wrote:
Here you assumed you knew what was going on and had ago at admin for being hypocrites, when the facts were totally in opposition to your assumption.
Recent CEOCambodiaNews articles have referred to "The drunken foreigner names JUUSO MIIKKAAEL," "The French guy names Berrnaed Louis Francosi," and a British guy names King Stephen William. Back when Samouth was credited with translations, he posted about "a Russian names TIKHONOYVIA DIMIROVICH." and about "coffee production house names coffee mekong."
Back in January, Samouth offered a translation under his own name using the phrase "A drunk barang got motor accident." Since then CEOCambodiaNews has reported on a "French girl crushed her motor" and about two siblings who "got accident but no one killed."
Samouth twice reported about people dying from "drug overdoes", CEOCambodiaNews has also reported about a death from "drug overdoes."
CEOCambodiaNews reported on the death of the Finnish guy in his "guesthouse calls Suomi Bar." Samouth has written about "a village calls Trapaeng Bei" and "my favorite British sitcom calls Mind Your Language."
Both Samouth and CEOCambodiaNews use the phrase "update news" instead of "updated news." Both Samouth and CEOCambodiaNews always write the date of the occurrence as "12 Jan 2015" or "16 June 2015." The similarities continue, it's not just that they make errors common to many Khmers, it's that CEOCambodiaNews now translates articles in exactly the way that Samouth did under his own name, with the same format and unique syntax and spelling mistakes, but no one gives him credit now and everyone (including Samouth) says he's not involved.
Given the unusual activity on this site with watermarking other's content and previous resistance to crediting Khmer sources, I hope you can understand my skepticism.
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Re: A fond farewell(ish).
Fair enough, I'll try and be nice/less nasty to you from now on.
I do think, however, that 440 has very little room to point fingers at anyone for anything, I've had people of accusing me of being 'underhand' merely for transposing a post, even though I explained very carefully what I had done.
And if one honestly believe that certain people didn't come over here with the deliberate intention of sabotaging threads/ trolling posters over here, even when one was dumb enough to admit it?
Then when same person got caught out, he simply deleted my post on 'working class', see the iWatch thread.
I think the original intent of the watermarking was to stop 440 from using images from CEO, if you're seriously worried about unethical behaviour, check out people practising without licenses, people selling drugs, buying kids for sex, stealing land etc.
I do think, however, that 440 has very little room to point fingers at anyone for anything, I've had people of accusing me of being 'underhand' merely for transposing a post, even though I explained very carefully what I had done.
And if one honestly believe that certain people didn't come over here with the deliberate intention of sabotaging threads/ trolling posters over here, even when one was dumb enough to admit it?
Then when same person got caught out, he simply deleted my post on 'working class', see the iWatch thread.
I think the original intent of the watermarking was to stop 440 from using images from CEO, if you're seriously worried about unethical behaviour, check out people practising without licenses, people selling drugs, buying kids for sex, stealing land etc.
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Re: A fond farewell(ish).
The whole purpose of a watermark is to show OWNERSHIP of the item watermarked,I think the original intent of the watermarking was to stop 440 from using images from CEO, .
none ( at least to my knowledge) of any images, youtube video's placed here and watermarked were shot/produced by ceo
Who finds it first online gets to say its theirs. doesn't work like that
You, of all, should understand stealing someone else's work (even if they did not watermark it) an saying its urs, is wrong
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Re: A fond farewell(ish).
I understand watermarks, but not everyone sticks with an original idea. It is possible it was intended for the use I suggested, why don't you ask GM directly? I cannot read his mind. I don't agree with it, but that doesn't mean I know what GM was thinking.
I've asked you this before, but I don't recall getting an answer:
You make money from photography, right? How much of that ever gets back to your subjects, for example young kids? Do you even ask them to take photos? Some say you should, I know that doesn't suit you so you disagree, no doubt, but that doesn't mean you are acting professionally or even ethically.
Some might say it's a new low for richard's photography.
Has every single photo posted on 440 ever been cited properly? No. Have you ever whinged about that?
You're also the guy who suggested we give money to corrupt cops or leave, so your ethics are kind of shitty even by Khmer scammer standards. How you can, with straight face, whine about forum watermarks after trying to endorse corruption, absolutely laughable.
It must be new low for corruption when they get expats to raise funds for them. Do you get a cut?
I suggest you contact GM re your present whinge here. I do not and cannot answer for him, I merely posited a theory.
I've asked you this before, but I don't recall getting an answer:
You make money from photography, right? How much of that ever gets back to your subjects, for example young kids? Do you even ask them to take photos? Some say you should, I know that doesn't suit you so you disagree, no doubt, but that doesn't mean you are acting professionally or even ethically.
Some might say it's a new low for richard's photography.
Has every single photo posted on 440 ever been cited properly? No. Have you ever whinged about that?
You're also the guy who suggested we give money to corrupt cops or leave, so your ethics are kind of shitty even by Khmer scammer standards. How you can, with straight face, whine about forum watermarks after trying to endorse corruption, absolutely laughable.
It must be new low for corruption when they get expats to raise funds for them. Do you get a cut?
I suggest you contact GM re your present whinge here. I do not and cannot answer for him, I merely posited a theory.
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Re: A fond farewell(ish).
vladimir wrote:I understand watermarks, but not everyone sticks with an original idea. It is possible it was intended for the use I suggested, why don't you ask GM directly? I cannot read his mind. I don't agree with it, but that doesn't mean I know what GM was thinking.
Has every single photo posted on 440 ever been cited properly? No. Have you ever whinged about that?
I suggest you contact GM re your present whinge here. I do not and cannot answer for him, I merely posited a theory.
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Re: A fond farewell(ish).
I can't believe you're fighting over this nonsense in OD's farewell thread.
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Re: A fond farewell(ish).
vladimir wrote:I understand watermarks, but not everyone sticks with an original idea. It is possible it was intended for the use I suggested, why don't you ask GM directly? I cannot read his mind. I don't agree with it, but that doesn't mean I know what GM was thinking.
I've asked you this before, but I don't recall getting an answer:
You make money from photography, right? How much of that ever gets back to your subjects, for example young kids? Do you even ask them to take photos? Some say you should, I know that doesn't suit you so you disagree, no doubt, but that doesn't mean you are acting professionally or even ethically.
Some might say it's a new low for richard's photography.
Has every single photo posted on 440 ever been cited properly? No. Have you ever whinged about that?
You're also the guy who suggested we give money to corrupt cops or leave, so your ethics are kind of shitty even by Khmer scammer standards. How you can, with straight face, whine about forum watermarks after trying to endorse corruption, absolutely laughable.
It must be new low for corruption when they get expats to raise funds for them. Do you get a cut?
I suggest you contact GM re your present whinge here. I do not and cannot answer for him, I merely posited a theory.
I do not need to defend my art, but i will cause i think many have a different view of what street portraiture is all about
I do not know ANY PHOTOGRAPHERS present or past or heard of any that shoot street photography/portraits (Henri Cartier-Bresson, Edward Weston, Alfred Stieglitz, Margareth Bourke-White, Garry Winogrand, Robert Frank, Dorothea Lange, Lee friendladner , Mary Ellan Mark and many many more) that pay their subjects. Many shoot off the cuff so to speak an if u look at their work u will see many are NOT happy about having their portraits shot.
Do you think the most famous of photos of the Vietnam war the photographer asked for permission or compensated the subject?
Nick Ut
Eddie Adams
Malcolm Browne
Or how about these, just cause they are newsworthy does that mean they are different laws than the ones i take? According to you an others , the answer would still be yes.
Robert Capa
Jeff Widener
Kevin Carter
John Filo
Many times, ( if u look at my photos) they are usually looking right at me at times, even posing, they accept i am taking their photographs and by consensual approval, give me permission, even thou it may not be written. Those that do not, turn away and i walk away an accept that they do not want their photos taken.
LOTS of times, if i am shooting in an area like PP, where i used to live, or will return to, i have photos printed an returned and passed them out, ( i'd say 75% of my portraits at the dump i passed out photos) I did an do this alot an people really appreciate it.
NOHas every photo on here or k440 been credited properly
its not the posting i object to as mush as ceo claiming it it theirs (by watermarking it) when it is not.
I do not defend nor accept corruption, its wrong but living in se asia if you choose to not accept it , well we both know you will not last long here
I am sure you right about why GM puts the ceo watermark on , but that does not make it right.
You started this and i merely gave my opinions. same as you, I do not start harping on this as GM gets upset at meI suggest you contact GM re your present whinge here
I dont have the gift of words you do and i know that, so accept my poorly written sentences and try an understand what i write. Fair enough?
See ya on the flip side OD
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Re: A fond farewell(ish).
Well, actually...phuketrichard wrote:Do you think the most famous of photos of the Vietnam war the photographer asked for permission or compensated the subject?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ns-40.html
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Re: A fond farewell(ish).
SC, you party-pooper!
Next everyone will be expecting people who make money out of them for a cut!
How unfair!
I hear Hitler's photographer/propaganda minster never asked for permission either.
Obviously, that makes it right.
Next everyone will be expecting people who make money out of them for a cut!
How unfair!
I hear Hitler's photographer/propaganda minster never asked for permission either.
Obviously, that makes it right.
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