Expats’ children ‘enjoy enhanced career prospects’

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Yeah. Nah.
Education these days is a weird thing. Back in Oz you pay big money to be churned out of uni there with a degree that may or may not earn you bank. Lotsa kids are getting trades and making bank by the time they're 20.
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education is THE most important thing any parent can give their child, although a university degree wont guarantee a successful future, it will 100% help
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phuketrichard wrote:education is THE most important thing any parent can give their child, although a university degree wont guarantee a successful future, it will 100% help
For sure but teaching fish to climb trees is futile and damaging to the psyche of the darling little fishes....

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Barang chgout wrote:For sure but teaching fish to climb trees is futile and damaging to the psyche of the darling little fishes....
WTF? Thought the topic is how a higher education helps the kids in third world countries have a better future. Doubt the darling fishes over there are have wallflower psyches.
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newkidontheblock wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:47 pm
Barang chgout wrote:For sure but teaching fish to climb trees is futile and damaging to the psyche of the darling little fishes....
WTF? Thought the topic is how a higher education helps the kids in third world countries have a better future. Doubt the darling fishes over there are have wallflower psyches.
No, the topic is that the children of expats' are said to have better career prospects than kids who have never left home, thanks to their wider cultural experience - or something like that.
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Having seen how much it costs companies to fund the educations of expat employees kids in international schools in various countries it would be nice to think it was worth something compared to the underfunded and oversized classrooms back in the homeland.
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Would it be safe to assume that (as a generalization) parents who are prepared to live and work in other countries are not traditional parents? Could this be a factor in why their kids do better in further education?

Actually, the comments about rootlessness and instability are on the money. I teach primary school kids from another culture, and it's a learning experience for me. I've always seen the extraneous factors of being a Third Culture Kid (and used to shudder whenever I heard the acronym TCK, almost as much as hearing Pastror's Kid or PK) but in my experience, and with some wonderful exceptions, most missions kids miss out on so much of the intrinsic value of a close family with a firm location. They might we well educated and entertained, and may even be the princes and princesses in their current community, but they are lonely, desperate for parental approval and attention, and spend their childhood making shallow relationships with peers as the families move about the globe.

To my mind, government schooling in Cambodia isn't fit for national kids, and damaging to expat kids who will one day have to compete with their own peers back in their country of origin, and even expensive schooling is often just diploma mill stuff ("Rudy is feeling [happy|horse] - circle the correct word". Thanks, Oxford Learning.) that involves waiting for the one smart kid to circle the correct word, and then copy her stuff. Previously I did not have a lot of respect for homeschooling (and still don't, when kids are homeschooled in their own country) but to me it's the best option for expat kids in Cambodia.

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phuketrichard wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:15 am ... although a university degree wont guarantee a successful future, it will 100% help
umm... :D
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StroppyChops wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:03 pm Would it be safe to assume that (as a generalization) parents who are prepared to live and work in other countries are not traditional parents? Could this be a factor in why their kids do better in further education?

Actually, the comments about rootlessness and instability are on the money. I teach primary school kids from another culture, and it's a learning experience for me. I've always seen the extraneous factors of being a Third Culture Kid (and used to shudder whenever I heard the acronym TCK, almost as much as hearing Pastror's Kid or PK) but in my experience, and with some wonderful exceptions, most missions kids miss out on so much of the intrinsic value of a close family with a firm location. They might we well educated and entertained, and may even be the princes and princesses in their current community, but they are lonely, desperate for parental approval and attention, and spend their childhood making shallow relationships with peers as the families move about the globe.

To my mind, government schooling in Cambodia isn't fit for national kids, and damaging to expat kids who will one day have to compete with their own peers back in their country of origin, and even expensive schooling is often just diploma mill stuff ("Rudy is feeling [happy|horse] - circle the correct word". Thanks, Oxford Learning.) that involves waiting for the one smart kid to circle the correct word, and then copy her stuff. Previously I did not have a lot of respect for homeschooling (and still don't, when kids are homeschooled in their own country) but to me it's the best option for expat kids in Cambodia.

Just my 100r.
You make some good points, I'm not sure about how long these missions last but many of the kids here do actually stay here for long periods and so do develop longer relationships with friends. As regards education, it's improving but far from ideal, and I agree with much of what you say.
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....Previously I did not have a lot of respect for homeschooling (and still don't, when kids are homeschooled in their own country) but to me it's the best option for expat kids in Cambodia.
Cant agree with any of the above

Both my brothers kids were home schooled in Md, (he teaches Sociology at a university and holds a phd) and his wife held her teaching credentials.
They both went on to his university for their BA and master degrees .
In the states you have museums, libraries, places for kids to socialize, none of which is available in Cambodia ( or anywhere in SE asia)

The second part also cant agree with, kids in a foreign country need to socialize and there is not that option if their home-schooled.
Yea, its great to live off the land and learn, but unless one or the other parents is committed to teaching their kids, they will get nothing and ur severely limiting their chance for success when they grow up.

I know i will take some feed back on this but;
I find it hard, having raised my daughter here, to see parents doing their kids a disservice by not giving them a good education, (cause they cant afford it and are just being selfish by remaining in a 3rd world country cause they want to), does not have to be a international school but needs to be a school were there are other western kids and western subjects. Home schooling just doesn't cut it overseas.You dont have all the resources a kid needs to learn.I'd ONLY suggest it as a very last resort as its better than nothing.
First 6-7 years in a bilingual school, OK, as long as their getting extra english and western studies, but for gods sake if u cant afford an international school, send them back to the west and give them a chance for their future.
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