Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:41 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:36 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:25 pm I do not see how a starlink device could be tracked or monitored by local authorities; there won't be starlink country office; nothing will stop consumers worldwide buying these units and connecting or assembling their own and then connecting. Time will tell ofc.

First of all they could simply intercept the boxes with antennas when imported. Second, a flashy white antenna (with Starlink log?) fully exposed to the sky at a certain angle with nearly a diameter of 1 meter will be pretty easy to spot. of course there will be the occasional house in the bush using one unnoticed, but I'm talking about serious adoption, let's say 10-100k users in Cambodia. I don't think they will allow because it will be a major hole in their safety net, at least in their world.

Again, it comes down to how eager they are. My guess is, they will be pretty eager. My guess is also Starlink won't be a success in China.

That's a pessimistic view.

I'll report back on how it works in a year or so

Kammekor wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:45 pm

timmydownawell wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:31 pm I have two dishes under a plastic sheeting roof with steel trusses, and they pick up TV from satellites at 35,000km altitude, so I don't think it'll be an issue.

You talk about receiving data. With Starlink you're looking at two way communication. Receive and send. Total different playing field, hence the extremely low orbit compared to 'old style' communication satellites.
The Starlink antenna will have maybe 1% of the sending power of the satellite, probably even less. That's where the problems might occur.

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:06 pm As if anybody in Cambodia gives a single, flying, fuck about what a dish or antennae is for.

Kammekor wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:07 pm

nerdlinger wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:01 pm Apparently although the dish does look like a classic dish, the underlying tech is a phased antenna array, which theoretically means you could build one that looks nothing like a dish. Of course you’d still be transmitting from it, so in principle those signals could be detected, but it’d be enough to avoid the attentions of busybody neighbours.

For receiving the dish is still a requirement. The Phased Antenna Array only specifies the sending part.

nerdlinger wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:13 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:07 pm

nerdlinger wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:01 pm Apparently although the dish does look like a classic dish, the underlying tech is a phased antenna array, which theoretically means you could build one that looks nothing like a dish. Of course you’d still be transmitting from it, so in principle those signals could be detected, but it’d be enough to avoid the attentions of busybody neighbours.

For receiving the dish is still a requirement. The Phased Antenna Array only specifies the sending part.

Phased antennas absolutely can be used to receive, I don’t know about Starlink’s specific hardware though.