Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:23 am

xandreu wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:00 am I don't quite get it when people tell you their preferred pronouns. There are three types of pronouns in English. First person, coming from the speaker (I, me, my), Second person, directed at the person you are talking to (you, yours) and Third person, typically directed at the person who is not present during the conversation or part of the conversation (he, him, his, she, her, hers).

So when people say their preferred pronouns are He/Him or She/Her, they are referring to how they prefer to be addressed when they are not there. In which case, why would they care?

I'm sure I've been called all sorts of things when I've not been present or involved in the conversation, not just related to my gender. Some of them positive, some negative. I wasn't there, so I wouldn't know. And neither would I particularly care.

Apart from on the internet, IRL I have never come across anyone at all who has told me how they think I should talk or how to address them.

As for guessing how you think random people on the internet wish to be addressed - life is too short - be kind and be tolerant. If the person is called Lola and is dressed as a woman, then "hello", is probably the appropriate address.

Yobbo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 2:20 pm

Doc67 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 12:15 pm

Yobbo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:05 pm Something to ponder as I crush my plant based chicken stockcubes into a good old fashioned chicken curry;
bought the chicken tender loins on special as about 10 packets were due to expire & be thrown out.
I'm hip

What are chicken tender loins?

A chicken tenderloin, or chicken tender, is a thin muscle that's loosely attached to the underside of the breast.

Big Daikon wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 3:45 am

GMJS-CEO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:43 pm

Big Daikon wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 1:10 pm

GMJS-CEO wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:56 pm I'm not so sure. I can't think how any of it impacted my life at all in the West or Asia.

I can see PC culture here in Japan. Mostly among the western expats, mind you. Lots of calls for "equity" and "diversity". Even expats talking about "helping Japan become a multicultural nation" and the like.

Recent example:

I think this is a good example of what I meant. There have likely been some statements on inclusion at events or places I attend, it just doesn't even register with me and doesn't impact me in any way. For example, just checked a theme park we attend frequently as a family -> They have something about diversity & inclusion on their website. I don't know when they added it and don't notice anything different from when I attended the same place 20 years ago. There are people that see that simple statement and get riled up about it, sane folks just keep going about their business.

Ok, the theme park example doesn't seem too important. On the other hand, the DIE (Diversity, Inclusion & Equity) agenda often means that people like me are excluded from jobs and universities. And receiving medical care, in the case of Covid vaccinations.

GMJS-CEO wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:56 pm

Alex wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:50 pm One of the best things about living in Southeast Asia is that you don't really need to care about all that shit.

I'm dreading the day when I'll be forced to return home though. It might never come and I sincerely hope so...

I'm not so sure. I can't think how any of it impacted my life at all in the West or Asia. "The biggest impact any "woke" movement has had is that people argue about it online and in the media where it gets sensationalized."