orussey98 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:41 pm

nemo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:06 pm

As a Chinese, I didn't see any discussion about the efficiency in Chinese platforms or media. But my parents and friends all have been vaccinated and as I know, they didn't have much side effects. I received moderna and had a strong side effects after first shot. Now many people in US who have been fully vaccinated tested positive for Delta. So no vaccine can prevent covid 100%, but each kind of vaccine, no matter where they come from, can prevent severe syndrome.

I am pleased to see we have a poster from the PRC.
I would like to express my approval of the help the PRC has given Cambodia during the pandemic.

Maybe we should thank him for his testimony no?
Not all chinese are for/with PRC
So thank you for your testimony

I haven't seen much reports about the sinovac and sinopharm vaccines (inactivated virus type) from people online

But I've seen a lot about the Pfizer, Moderna, Astrazeneca and J&J

The most commons side effects reported by people are bells palsy, tinnitus, extreme fatigue, brain fog
the most extreme ones are death, bloodclots (amputations in some extreme cases), uncontrollable shaking, stroke and heart attack

I don't have the truth, I'm not a doctor, not a data analyst of any kind
Just what i saw here and there

I got Moderna and had no side effects with either shot. As for many vaccinated testing positive, I suppose if your idea of many is equal to a fraction of a percentage, then sure.

That post was so suspicious, just like China, their vaccine data and their resistance to a proper investigation regarding the virus origins.

TWY wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:16 am

AndyKK wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:22 pm Anyone know the answer! Why has the change been made in Phnom Penh from the first shot, of 14 days to the second shot. Now 21 days between shots?

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Here in Siem Reap, last night they told folks no more #1 shots available. But they supposedly have all the #2 shots. So it may simply be a matter of available supplies. They are administering Sinopharm here in Siem Reap.

Maybe it's not a stock problem but a logistic problem. In my tiny village they've been around to vaccinate every day for about eight days, now they're gone and they'll be back in two weeks to start with the second shots. SinoVac.

Apollo91881 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:25 am
I got Moderna and had no side effects with either shot. As for many vaccinated testing positive, I suppose if your idea of many is equal to a fraction of a percentage, then sure.

That post was so suspicious, just like China, their vaccine data and their resistance to a proper investigation regarding the virus origins.

Good for you.

It seems from the ingredients of the vaccines that the chinese ones seems less risky( as they didn't try something new but used the classic method for a vaccine).
Especially some excipients used in Pfizer and Moderna that are new to use in a vaccine

People who had bad side effects reported them 3/4 months after the last injections.
I guess we will know more in some months about the percentage

Here in Siem Reap, last night they told folks no more #1 shots available. But they supposedly have all the #2 shots. So it may simply be a matter of available supplies. They are administering Sinopharm here in Siem Reap.
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Maybe it's not a stock problem but a logistic problem. In my tiny village they've been around to vaccinate every day for about eight days, now they're gone and they'll be back in two weeks to start with the second shots. SinoVac.
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It turns out it was a supply issue. They actually postponed the 2nd shots by a week waiting for more Sinopharm to be supplied. Folks got their 2nd shot a week later than scheduled but they got them. We were told at the vaccination site that they had some of the 2nd shot but not enough for everyone (the reason for the 1 week wait) as some sites kept giving out #1 shots after they were told to stop. But all is well that ends well as I haven't heard of anyone here that couldn't get their 2nd shot this week.

Railroad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:39 pm With respect, the last 2 posts ain't nothin' to do with this thread.
Am I right?
Sposed to be about Chinese so-called vaccines.

Derailed to 'effects of long Chinese virus' or something.
Already enough confusion around, innit..

With respect, this is off topic; some people must just look for something to bitch about. Thought it was a casual convo. Obviously not, even got a resident deipnosophist on board. Imagine that in the 19th hole or enjoying an aperitif, in the den, of Cognac or single malt with a La Aroma de Cuba: "Seymour... you're drifting off topic, aren't you? OK? So watch that. Right, let's peddle back, shall we?"
Did you gesture for a high-five when you asked "Am I right?" At least someone didn't leave you hangin'.
Feel free to retort, "Oh, did I hurt your precious feelings?"

Early research suggest that an AZ or Pfizer as a booster shot after Sino might be a good combo.
That may be a little reassuring for those who can only get a Chinese vax for now.

In the meanwhile there is no doubt that Sino is far better than hesitation.
Not as effective - but will still change the odds of you catching the virus, and of getting very sick if you do, dramatically.
No doubt about that.

lordwei wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:18 am As a Chinese, I didn't see any discussion about the efficiency in Chinese platforms or media. But my parents and friends all have been vaccinated and as I know, they didn't have much side effects. I received moderna and had a strong side effects after first shot. Now many people in US who have been fully vaccinated tested positive for Delta. So no vaccine can prevent covid 100%, but each kind of vaccine, no matter where they come from, can prevent severe syndrome.

I know this isn't on topic but any movie recommendations you have would be very welcome. I've put the link below for the "recommended movie" thread. I'm sure I'll be able to find subtitles online somewhere so would be grateful if you can make some recommendations. Thanks.

video-and-entertainment/recommended-movies-t30972.html

orussey98 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:46 am

Apollo91881 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:25 am
I got Moderna and had no side effects with either shot. As for many vaccinated testing positive, I suppose if your idea of many is equal to a fraction of a percentage, then sure.

That post was so suspicious, just like China, their vaccine data and their resistance to a proper investigation regarding the virus origins.

Good for you.

It seems from the ingredients of the vaccines that the chinese ones seems less risky( as they didn't try something new but used the classic method for a vaccine).
Especially some excipients used in Pfizer and Moderna that are new to use in a vaccine

People who had bad side effects reported them 3/4 months after the last injections.
I guess we will know more in some months about the percentage

Using mRNA is the less risky option, the Chinese used the old fashioned denatured virus method, sticking the whole virus itself in you, whereas the Western version is just mRNA coding for the protein. The mRNA dissolves, unlike the virus. Side-effects are less common than peanut allergies.

cptrelentless wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:14 am
Using mRNA is the less risky option, the Chinese used the old fashioned denatured virus method, sticking the whole virus itself in you, whereas the Western version is just mRNA coding for the protein. The mRNA dissolves, unlike the virus. Side-effects are less common than peanut allergies.

How do you know it's the "less risky option"?
It's the first time this technology is used at this scale.

Also it's not only about the mRNA itself but how it has been encapsulated. In that case it's a new way of doing it too (provided by a chinese company).

The big advantage with the inactivated virus is that it's a proven technology that has been used for a long time and at a big scale

Interesting discussion comparing Sinovac with other vaccines.

One slightly alarming comment the guy says is that there is now evidence from Thailand that suggests the antibodies of people vaccinated with Sinovac may only last 3 months.