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Post by **Freightdog** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:25 pm

If you’re overwhelmed by the forms, then your only option is to take them to someone competent, such as the embassy as they’ve already told you to take the forms to them, or get someone a bit more compos mentis and maybe with some experience of doing this, and get their help.

Stravaiger · Post by **Stravaiger** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:58 pm

Alex wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:20 pm Knowing your exact date of death would be incredibly helpful to plan this properly.

That can be arranged.

With medical science increasingly keeping people alive long after their diminished physical and especially mental capacities render it undesirable more will be arranging it for themselves.

Indeed as noted some already choose 'Death by Cambodia'.

pissontheroof · Post by **pissontheroof** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:08 pm

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:06 pm In a nutshell

">............I got the ‘ report a birth abroad ‘

so u have NOT gotten the report of birth abroad, only a half completed application>
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://eforms.state.gov/Forms/ds2029.PDF
IMPORTANT: You must provide the required evidence listed below before we can process the application. Please follow the instructions below.
note section B
what did u expect them to say?

if u do go, explain about the mother< they will listen

Cambodia is a small country, are u saying ur son is not worth a 5-7 hour bus ride ??
you say u got $$$, so take a taxi with him, stay a nice hotel for a night or 2. Deal with it
thats ur call, but dont keep blaming it on the embassy

I'm done giving you advice as it seems you just want wallow in ur misery.
Noted , I didn’t pay much attention before but it makes sense.
* note section B
Why wouldn’t they elaborate that part and reply when I tell them most all of the mothers part is missing
and I’m not going there together with her .
Why can’t I explain the situation from here instead of doing it from there ?
( whooops , forgot 1 thing ) and be virtually/ unofficially approved before I make the trip
so I can get there and done without any need for any hotel room ?
Why can’t I send it online and have them comment
instead of going all the way there by taxi , yes , I tell the taxi take me there go do my duty at the embassy
then walk out into the taxi and go home .
Last time I went there had to go night before to be there in the morning
I had 2 cambrodian “ helpers “ for my side and got sweetie pie honey buns to show up
Stayed in the same room with my sweety , his mom , and it was terrible.
Got physically sick , nothing to do with her , she’s ok but . I just get sick in phnom penh. ,
Why do I have to go in ? To say , bla bla bla , come back .. and go back ?
why can’t I submit by email ? I got the records used to make the passport
I do not have any of the motherly stuff except for the copy of the ID card I made her
And my made up birth certificate with that info to make the passport that made me sick to stay there overnight
I get heebie jeebies there .. siem reap aint my cuppa tea either but I don’t go out no more

( I been kicked out of all the good places. ) if sihanoukville had an american consulate i would go there .
I just only would go if it would be positive , why don’t they help and guide me so I don’t just go for the halibut ?
If she died ( That can be arranged. )that might help . She’s not doing so well these days
. But The last time she was sihanoukville in jail again , I shouldn’t have bailed her out !

I just sent an email whatever ( cambodia childrens trust )

[We have received your message. we'll be in touch soon.]
, but the everybody( team ) is cambodian
They. Want to make sure you know how to donate properly , I asked them question about orphans.
Don’t know how they could help me ,I need a parent / guardian in place for everything WHEN I DIE , not now .
I need to get something worked out if there is any emergency who is going to take over the whole shebang
No idea what THEY could do but if they can help all the better .. I don’t even know what I need yet
Except for the american recognition ( passport ? Is that all they do ?
Why can’t they do anything except in the flesh ?
Serious question ..

Post by **Freightdog** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:18 pm

(This is dragging the topic off in another direction- I might move all of this part to the debate to the related thread, later)

Here’s the thing-
Nothing has change since the last time this (your kid’s US citizenship) was discussed, and nothing will change if the discussion keeps going back to the same issues without further action.

If you now want to be distracted by a discussion on why the US embassy don’t help you more, or why they’re in Phnom Penh instead of somewhere else, it will change nothing. It is what it is. It may not be ideal, but you’ll not be fixing that aspect any quicker than just getting on with the foreign births registration.

After a quick skim read of the form, it doesn’t actually look that bad.

Stravaiger · Post by **Stravaiger** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:43 pm

General Mackevili wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:37 am Trying to die with LESS than $10K in the bank is about the dumbest goal I've ever heard of.

That said, if his overall message is 'don't waste your limited time on Earth accumulating more wealth than you and your family could use,' then I can say he has a point that could be debated, but just saying you're a failure if you have more than a small rainy day pot when you die is just illogical. (I also haven't watched the video, lol.)

For those who haven't watched the video, the book is based on simple truisms like 'You can't take it with you' and 'No one on their deathbed ever wished they had spent more time in the office' which most would agree with.

If you want to spend more time with your children when they are small you can't put it off until you are 80. Unless you are Mick Jagger. The thrust of the book's main argument is that you will never accumulate enough wealth in retirement to compensate for all the opportunities missed when you were younger.

As to giving wealth away it makes more sense to exercise the philanthropy now, and if children are to get something it's most beneficial when they are 25-30yo, rather than making them postpone their celebrations until you pop your clogs. And the importance of tax planning shouldn't be overlooked.

There are many activities - I mean of course like skiing, skydiving (exception Pattaya) - that can't be fully engaged in, or at least as frequently, as we approach our Autumn years. How many stories are there of would-be expats who defer what they call 'making the move' with a plan to retire in sunnier climes when they are sixty or older ? I pity those who retired just as Covid hit. All that deferring.

I believe the next 10 years are going to characterised by significant inflation and political instability. We had the good times.

Naturally these ideas only apply to those with funds or opportunities, largely in the developed world. Here a rice farmer will invest in his children in the hope that some of them will work the land and support him in his dotage. In that case he won't be giving them the farm before he has bought it. But that is more a question of how much you can trust your spouse/children.

The $10k figure if it ever was said no doubt needs to be indexed for inflation. Flynn's sex and drugs and alcohol fueled life ended in 1959 at the age of 50. There have been a few who emulated his lifestyle here. Who is to say that they were wrong ?

TL;DR carpe diem.

Random Dude · Post by **Random Dude** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:49 pm

pissontheroof wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:08 pm
phuketrichard wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:06 pm In a nutshell

">............I got the ‘ report a birth abroad ‘

so u have NOT gotten the report of birth abroad, only a half completed application>
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://eforms.state.gov/Forms/ds2029.PDF
IMPORTANT: You must provide the required evidence listed below before we can process the application. Please follow the instructions below.
note section B
what did u expect them to say?

if u do go, explain about the mother< they will listen

Cambodia is a small country, are u saying ur son is not worth a 5-7 hour bus ride ??
you say u got $$$, so take a taxi with him, stay a nice hotel for a night or 2. Deal with it
thats ur call, but dont keep blaming it on the embassy

I'm done giving you advice as it seems you just want wallow in ur misery.
Noted , I didn’t pay much attention before but it makes sense.
* note section B
Why wouldn’t they elaborate that part and reply when I tell them most all of the mothers part is missing
and I’m not going there together with her .
Why can’t I explain the situation from here instead of doing it from there ?
( whooops , forgot 1 thing ) and be virtually/ unofficially approved before I make the trip
so I can get there and done without any need for any hotel room ?
Why can’t I send it online and have them comment
instead of going all the way there by taxi , yes , I tell the taxi take me there go do my duty at the embassy
then walk out into the taxi and go home .
Last time I went there had to go night before to be there in the morning
I had 2 cambrodian “ helpers “ for my side and got sweetie pie honey buns to show up
Stayed in the same room with my sweety , his mom , and it was terrible.
Got physically sick , nothing to do with her , she’s ok but . I just get sick in phnom penh. ,
Why do I have to go in ? To say , bla bla bla , come back .. and go back ?
why can’t I submit by email ? I got the records used to make the passport
I do not have any of the motherly stuff except for the copy of the ID card I made her
And my made up birth certificate with that info to make the passport that made me sick to stay there overnight
I get heebie jeebies there .. siem reap aint my cuppa tea either but I don’t go out no more

( I been kicked out of all the good places. ) if sihanoukville had an american consulate i would go there .
I just only would go if it would be positive , why don’t they help and guide me so I don’t just go for the halibut ?
If she died ( That can be arranged. )that might help . She’s not doing so well these days
. But The last time she was sihanoukville in jail again , I shouldn’t have bailed her out !

I just sent an email whatever ( cambodia childrens trust )

[We have received your message. we'll be in touch soon.]
, but the everybody( team ) is cambodian
They. Want to make sure you know how to donate properly , I asked them question about orphans.
Don’t know how they could help me ,I need a parent / guardian in place for everything WHEN I DIE , not now .
I need to get something worked out if there is any emergency who is going to take over the whole shebang
No idea what THEY could do but if they can help all the better .. I don’t even know what I need yet
Except for the american recognition ( passport ? Is that all they do ?
Why can’t they do anything except in the flesh ?
Serious question ..
An organization like that (Cambodia Children's Trust) would know what other services are available to help orphaned kids. Hopefully, they'd be able to advise you on places able to look after your boy when it comes to that time, and how to set it up. He'd need food, shelter, and schooling. That's what I'd be asking them.

He'd also need someone reliable to look after whatever money you leave him - I assume in some sort of trust or something. No idea if they could advise you on that matter.

Getting his papers in order ... I doubt they could help with that, and I reckon you'll need to make the trip to PP. Bureaucracy is the same everywhere, they'll want to compare your face to the photo ID and have you sign things in person.
What you can do though is talk to them first, find out exactly what's needed, get it all in order, double check with them to confirm, and then just do it. Don't bother making the trip until you have everything they've asked for. Take someone to help.

If the boy's mother used a different name or whatever on the birth certificate, you'll probably need to get that sorted out first. That's where hiring a helper who knows how to get things done locally would be money well spent.

John Bingham · Post by **John Bingham** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:26 pm

There's no embassy in the world that will accept forms that aren't completed and missing documents. There's no point in talking about it, they have to go by their regulations.

Kenr · Post by **Kenr** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:42 pm

You cannot apply for a new U.S. passport, meaning your first one, online, it must be done in person. It’s the same if you are in the U.S. or abroad.

pissontheroof · Post by **pissontheroof** » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:55 pm

I just want to get the paperwork checked and “. virtuality “ approved
to avoid a waste of anything before going all the way down there with it .
For the stamp .

Post by **Freightdog** » Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:28 pm

pissontheroof wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:55 pm I just want to get the paperwork checked and “. virtuality “ approved
to avoid a waste of anything before going all the way down there with it .
For the stamp .

It’s understandable that you don’t want a wasted trip. How are you going to get the paperwork checked?

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