A Decade in KOW

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Re: A Decade in KOW

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Beerinthemorning wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:39 pm i know some old dudes who just drink beer and never leave KoW .

i suppose if your conclusion is correct they are neither expats too.

just barangs on permanent vacation.

We are all quite aware that you hang around with degenerates and have deluded yourself into thinking that they are representative of all the foreign residents here who you have never met. What these alcoholics spend their time here doing is irrelevant to their residential status.
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Re: A Decade in KOW

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Beerinthemorning wrote:
John Bingham wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:25 pm
Beerinthemorning wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:02 pm so to reach full expat maximum status one must actually have never left KoW over the full span of a decade?
Don't be ridiculous. An expatriate is someone who lives in a country other than the one they were born in. They can travel as much as they like but will be based in a foreign country. You are a tourist - which is someone who goes on holidays. We know you like to make out that you are a wise old hand in Cambodia, but you have never lived or worked here so that's just disingenuous nonsense and nobody is falling for it.

i know some old dudes who just drink beer and never leave KoW .

i suppose if your conclusion is correct they are neither expats too.

just barangs on permanent vacation.
Depends on your budget obviously, but I would recommend the riverside area. Plenty of cheap eateries as well as a good selection of minimarts. And congrats!

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John Bingham wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:11 pm
Beerinthemorning wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:39 pm i know some old dudes who just drink beer and never leave KoW .

i suppose if your conclusion is correct they are neither expats too.

just barangs on permanent vacation.

We are all quite aware that you hang around with degenerates and have deluded yourself into thinking that they are representative of all the foreign residents here who you have never met. What these alcoholics spend their time here doing is irrelevant to their residential status.
This. Pineapple assumes, wrongly, that all foreigners in Cambodia are alcoholic sexpats, based on where he hangs out.
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Re: A Decade in KOW

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hanno wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:11 pm
John Bingham wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:11 pm
Beerinthemorning wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:39 pm i know some old dudes who just drink beer and never leave KoW .

i suppose if your conclusion is correct they are neither expats too.

just barangs on permanent vacation.

We are all quite aware that you hang around with degenerates and have deluded yourself into thinking that they are representative of all the foreign residents here who you have never met. What these alcoholics spend their time here doing is irrelevant to their residential status.
This. Pineapple assumes, wrongly, that all foreigners in Cambodia are alcoholic sexpats, based on where he hangs out.
yes , some are just alcoholics.
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Re: A Decade in KOW

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John Bingham wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:25 pm
Beerinthemorning wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:02 pm so to reach full expat maximum status one must actually have never left KoW over the full span of a decade?
Don't be ridiculous. An expatriate is someone who lives in a country other than the one they were born in. They can travel as much as they like but will be based in a foreign country. You are a tourist - which is someone who goes on holidays. We know you like to make out that you are a wise old hand in Cambodia, but you have never lived or worked here so that's just disingenuous nonsense and nobody is falling for it.
I tend to put people into 3 categories ( you may disagree with the names of the categories, but I think all you long termers know what I mean).
1/ Tourists - here for a quick holiday, may even come for a month or more for a few years, but don't consider it "home". Then they fuk off to the next hot spot.Nothing invested in the country, not real emotions or finances, when they get bored they will leave and never come back. Jamie is a perfect example of this category.
2/ Long term tourists - those blokes you meet regularly. These are the blokes who decide "This is IT.This is my new home" they may even buy a bar and have a girlfriend. But they invariably live in guesthouses long term, eat 3 meals a day out at restaurants, sleep all day and piss up all night (with all that goes with that lifestyle) and never really create a real life here. But you sort of know within a couple of days of meeting them that they just don't have what it takes to may a life here. OR they are younger and just want to keep exploring the world. OD and the General are perfect examples of this category.
3/ What I term as immigrants or long termers - they live here full time pretty much and see it as their home. They make a REAL life here. Work, a real home life, ie: they put down roots. JB is a perfect example of this category.
I'm not saying one group is better then the other, just that all categories are different and are here for different reasons and have different goals for the time they spend here.
Trapper, you know I'm not one of the idiots that pays out on you all the time, just because you put yourself up as an easy target. However, you are and never have been, anything other then a category 1 Tourist. Nothing to be ashamed of mate, but stop pretending you are an immigrant when you ain't mate.
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Re: A Decade in KOW

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Hotdigr wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:20 pm
John Bingham wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:25 pm
Beerinthemorning wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:02 pm so to reach full expat maximum status one must actually have never left KoW over the full span of a decade?
Don't be ridiculous. An expatriate is someone who lives in a country other than the one they were born in. They can travel as much as they like but will be based in a foreign country. You are a tourist - which is someone who goes on holidays. We know you like to make out that you are a wise old hand in Cambodia, but you have never lived or worked here so that's just disingenuous nonsense and nobody is falling for it.
I tend to put people into 3 categories ( you may disagree with the names of the categories, but I think all you long termers know what I mean).
1/ Tourists - here for a quick holiday, may even come for a month or more for a few years, but don't consider it "home". Then they fuk off to the next hot spot.Nothing invested in the country, not real emotions or finances, when they get bored they will leave and never come back. Jamie is a perfect example of this category.
2/ Long term tourists - those blokes you meet regularly. These are the blokes who decide "This is IT.This is my new home" they may even buy a bar and have a girlfriend. But they invariably live in guesthouses long term, eat 3 meals a day out at restaurants, sleep all day and piss up all night (with all that goes with that lifestyle) and never really create a real life here. But you sort of know within a couple of days of meeting them that they just don't have what it takes to may a life here. OR they are younger and just want to keep exploring the world. OD and the General are perfect examples of this category.
3/ What I term as immigrants or long termers - they live here full time pretty much and see it as their home. They make a REAL life here. Work, a real home life, ie: they put down roots. JB is a perfect example of this category.
I'm not saying one group is better then the other, just that all categories are different and are here for different reasons and have different goals for the time they spend here.
Trapper, you know I'm not one of the idiots that pays out on you all the time, just because you put yourself up as an easy target. However, you are and never have been, anything other then a category 1 Tourist. Nothing to be ashamed of mate, but stop pretending you are an immigrant when you ain't mate.
its better being number 1
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Re: A Decade in KOW

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Jamie knows the language. That is serious.
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Re: A Decade in KOW

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Beerinthemorning wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:49 pm
its better being number 1
How is it better? I wouldn't even care if you actually liked the place but that's not what I see. I see you as someone who is constantly moving around because you have this false hope that things will be better when you move. It never works like that, and I'd expect someone of your age and supposed maturity to have figured that out by now. So what we have is an endless cycle of Australia is great - Australia is shit, I'm going to SE Asia, everything will be great then, but within a few days it's all SE Asia is shit, and then you start generalizing about people, locals and foreigners, who you don't know. You whine on about it and then run off and do the exact same thing again a few months later. That's just not healthy mate, you need to get your head screwed on.

It's funny that you think I care how long anyone has been here, because I don't. There's a whole big world out there and just because someone is just passing through for a bit doesn't mean they don't have a whole lot else going on somewhere else. I like talking to tourists, locals, my family and friends and many foreign residents. It's just kind of ridiculous when a thread is titled "A decade in KOW", when it's from someone who regularly points out that they are living/ working in different countries. It's all good, just try and stop complaining so much and people might warm to you, all the best for now. 8-)
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Re: A Decade in KOW

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frank lee bent wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:50 pm Jamie knows the language. That is serious.
I've never met Jamie, but he seems to be transitioning towards spending longer and longer periods here. Eventually he'll get so caught up in the web he will never escape. 8-)
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Re: A Decade in KOW

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frank lee bent wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:50 pm Jamie knows the language. That is serious.
Maybe I could have used another example, but we all know Jamie is never going to live here full time.He knows that and has never said he is going to. He has no real emotion invested here and if for some reason he was told " leave tomorrow and never come back" he wouldn't worry about it to much. It wouldn't cause him undue stress and he wouldn't "lose" anything. I know 2 blokes just in this town that speak read and write 4 languages fluently btw. Doesn't mean that they are expat/immigrants of 4 different countries even though they have lived in all 4 countries. Its a hobby for them and they have a gift for it.
Please don't try to make this out to be something I didn't mean it to be. I repeat what I said - 1 category isn't better then the others, just different expectations and goals.
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