Dealing with confronting stuff
Dealing with confronting stuff
Today we saw a man hitting a woman (I assume his wife) on the side of the road. He had a piece of leather at first then picked up a pretty big stick and was whacking her with it.
She wasn't screaming, she just sat on the ground in a mess while he let rip at her.
There was a small crowd of locals (including children) watching the whole scene and nobody stepped in to intervene. It was so bizarre they just stood back and watched.
I felt so conflicted - there was nothing we could sensibly do to stop the situation even if it was our place to intervene but fuck me....a man laying into a woman with a great big stick while kids are watching.......everything inside you screams that you should help but you just move on because it's not really your country.
She wasn't screaming, she just sat on the ground in a mess while he let rip at her.
There was a small crowd of locals (including children) watching the whole scene and nobody stepped in to intervene. It was so bizarre they just stood back and watched.
I felt so conflicted - there was nothing we could sensibly do to stop the situation even if it was our place to intervene but fuck me....a man laying into a woman with a great big stick while kids are watching.......everything inside you screams that you should help but you just move on because it's not really your country.
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Siem Reap? FC?
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This was in Sihanoukville
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Roz, I think you didn't get much in the way of an answer here because this has been discussed many times on these forums, and there doesn't seem to be a good answer except that it's a case by case individual thing.
Personally, I would not feel comfortable giving anyone else advice on what they should do.It is a tough subject to comment on - ie; how should you react if you are witness to scenes of violence - particularly Khmer on Khmer. Whatever you say, someone will tell you that you are wrong - for sure.
However, since you just arrived in Cambodia more or less, and I don't mind being told I'm wrong, I'll tell you what I think about the subject and hope that will be some help to you.
In western culture, when you see a man beating a woman with a stick you will probably feel that it is your moral duty to intervene - so either you will do so directly, or you will call the police and expect them to sort it out.
In Cambodia, you will probably not call the police; even if you knew the number to call, they will probably not respond or they will turn up and give you the shit. (FWIW, I have never tried this, so it's just what I've heard.)
So, that leaves you with direct intervention. There are a number of problems with this, especially if you do not know the language or the situation.
The first very real problem is that you might get beaten up. The woman may also turn around and attack you for beating her man.
The second one is that you may have totally misunderstood the situation - perhaps the woman just ran over the guy's kid and killed it or did something even worse - this puts you in a bad position to say the least.
Yet another problem is that even if you jump in and save this woman, what are you going to do as a follow-up? Are you going to adopt her and take her home? Assuming she would want to go. Or are you going to leave her there to get beaten up even worse when you leave because you made the guy lose face ? Or if the guy goes to jail because of this, are you prepared to support the woman and her family?
If the woman concerned is a neighbour and the problem is on-going then perhaps you could help. You could also make contact with an appropriate local NGO and learn how you can help if you see this again, or if you can support them.
So, Roz, I guess you can see now why you didn't get much imput on this. Some people will say kick his ass and others will say get the hell out - there is no good answer IMO.
So these are just my thoughts for what they're worth. This does not mean that you should never intervene, and maybe you will even if it's unwise because you feel you have to. I have no idea what i would have done in your case, but I'm not you and it's difficult to say how you will react until you are on the spot.
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Personally, I would not feel comfortable giving anyone else advice on what they should do.It is a tough subject to comment on - ie; how should you react if you are witness to scenes of violence - particularly Khmer on Khmer. Whatever you say, someone will tell you that you are wrong - for sure.
However, since you just arrived in Cambodia more or less, and I don't mind being told I'm wrong, I'll tell you what I think about the subject and hope that will be some help to you.
In western culture, when you see a man beating a woman with a stick you will probably feel that it is your moral duty to intervene - so either you will do so directly, or you will call the police and expect them to sort it out.
In Cambodia, you will probably not call the police; even if you knew the number to call, they will probably not respond or they will turn up and give you the shit. (FWIW, I have never tried this, so it's just what I've heard.)
So, that leaves you with direct intervention. There are a number of problems with this, especially if you do not know the language or the situation.
The first very real problem is that you might get beaten up. The woman may also turn around and attack you for beating her man.
The second one is that you may have totally misunderstood the situation - perhaps the woman just ran over the guy's kid and killed it or did something even worse - this puts you in a bad position to say the least.
Yet another problem is that even if you jump in and save this woman, what are you going to do as a follow-up? Are you going to adopt her and take her home? Assuming she would want to go. Or are you going to leave her there to get beaten up even worse when you leave because you made the guy lose face ? Or if the guy goes to jail because of this, are you prepared to support the woman and her family?
If the woman concerned is a neighbour and the problem is on-going then perhaps you could help. You could also make contact with an appropriate local NGO and learn how you can help if you see this again, or if you can support them.
So, Roz, I guess you can see now why you didn't get much imput on this. Some people will say kick his ass and others will say get the hell out - there is no good answer IMO.
So these are just my thoughts for what they're worth. This does not mean that you should never intervene, and maybe you will even if it's unwise because you feel you have to. I have no idea what i would have done in your case, but I'm not you and it's difficult to say how you will react until you are on the spot.
We all do what we can...
or or ...
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What he said.
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Thank you do much for that -there's no way we would intervene but it was just hard to see. I've never seen anyone hit someone in anger.
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At least in Cambodia there are always lots of witnesses standing around.
Cambodia,,,, Don't fall in love with her.
Like the spoilt child she is, she will not be happy till she destroys herself from within and breaks your heart.
Like the spoilt child she is, she will not be happy till she destroys herself from within and breaks your heart.
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I think you made the right decision. If the police was there he might also just stood and watched the live domestic violence. Who know you might had been injured trying to intervene.
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Well put.Anchor Moy wrote:Roz, I think you didn't get much in the way of an answer here because this has been discussed many times on these forums, and there doesn't seem to be a good answer except that it's a case by case individual thing.
Personally, I would not feel comfortable giving anyone else advice on what they should do.It is a tough subject to comment on - ie; how should you react if you are witness to scenes of violence - particularly Khmer on Khmer. Whatever you say, someone will tell you that you are wrong - for sure.
However, since you just arrived in Cambodia more or less, and I don't mind being told I'm wrong, I'll tell you what I think about the subject and hope that will be some help to you.
In western culture, when you see a man beating a woman with a stick you will probably feel that it is your moral duty to intervene - so either you will do so directly, or you will call the police and expect them to sort it out.
In Cambodia, you will probably not call the police; even if you knew the number to call, they will probably not respond or they will turn up and give you the shit. (FWIW, I have never tried this, so it's just what I've heard.)
So, that leaves you with direct intervention. There are a number of problems with this, especially if you do not know the language or the situation.
The first very real problem is that you might get beaten up. The woman may also turn around and attack you for beating her man.
The second one is that you may have totally misunderstood the situation - perhaps the woman just ran over the guy's kid and killed it or did something even worse - this puts you in a bad position to say the least.
Yet another problem is that even if you jump in and save this woman, what are you going to do as a follow-up? Are you going to adopt her and take her home? Assuming she would want to go. Or are you going to leave her there to get beaten up even worse when you leave because you made the guy lose face ? Or if the guy goes to jail because of this, are you prepared to support the woman and her family?
If the woman concerned is a neighbour and the problem is on-going then perhaps you could help. You could also make contact with an appropriate local NGO and learn how you can help if you see this again, or if you can support them.
So, Roz, I guess you can see now why you didn't get much imput on this. Some people will say kick his ass and others will say get the hell out - there is no good answer IMO.
So these are just my thoughts for what they're worth. This does not mean that you should never intervene, and maybe you will even if it's unwise because you feel you have to. I have no idea what i would have done in your case, but I'm not you and it's difficult to say how you will react until you are on the spot.
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My country, your country, BULLSHIT TO THAT I SAY!
This is the sort of thing where not stepping in is the same as approving of it. Of course the locals didn't do anything, they love this shit!
If you're willing to let this bullshit happen to another human being without even attempting to do something about it, you are in no
position to complain once you're on the receiving end of the violence and nobody aids you.
This mentality of "it's not my country" is just pure and undiluted idiocy. SO FUCKING WHAT IF IT ISN'T YOUR COUNTRY? We're one people
and injustice is injustice wherever it happens.
This is the sort of thing where not stepping in is the same as approving of it. Of course the locals didn't do anything, they love this shit!
If you're willing to let this bullshit happen to another human being without even attempting to do something about it, you are in no
position to complain once you're on the receiving end of the violence and nobody aids you.
This mentality of "it's not my country" is just pure and undiluted idiocy. SO FUCKING WHAT IF IT ISN'T YOUR COUNTRY? We're one people
and injustice is injustice wherever it happens.
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