COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by StroppyChops » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:10 pm

What's the deal with the 'police' number plates?
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by General Mackevili » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:13 pm

StroppyChops wrote:What's the deal with the 'police' number plates?
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by StroppyChops » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:14 pm

Yeah, those.
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by OrangeDragon » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:51 am

They're supposed to be for police vehicles. Not sure if it's "supposed" to be allowed for police PERSONAL vehicles or not... but it is.

Also members of their family, sometimes people it's been sold to and they didn't take them off, etc.
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by Jacobincambodia » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:09 pm

Rain Dog wrote:
StroppyChops wrote:Jacob, that would work most of the time, but I really worry for you on the one time it doesn't. Demanding to talk to the guy's boss is a really bad idea as the boss is already into it for a percentage - I could see the one in a hundred time of you being packed off for a longer 'discussion' with the cop and a few of his cop mates.
Yes -- I agree with all he said except #9 --- very BAD idea that one.
Crossing my fingers, I've been fortunate here. Never had an issue with this. But I've never been taken to the boss man either, just waved off. I believe it's all about confidence and attitude, having a good one that is.
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by Jacobincambodia » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:12 pm

OrangeDragon wrote:They're supposed to be for police vehicles. Not sure if it's "supposed" to be allowed for police PERSONAL vehicles or not... but it is.

Also members of their family, sometimes people it's been sold to and they didn't take them off, etc.
Personally, I HATE the way most of these guys drive around town like they are God or something. It drives me absolutely crazy. I have to be careful sometimes because I rarely move over for them. They are just joy riding around town in their Lexus which was purchased with bribe money or other illegal means.
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by 4000islandsguy » Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:56 am

Soi Dog wrote:
Jacobincambodia wrote: 3. NEVER give your original license over. That's now his leverage. I always carry a copy and usually leave my original at home.
4. Arguing usually commences and I tell the cop I don't carry my original because of corruption.
The law in most countries is that everyone is required to carry their original driver's license or ID at all times, and maybe even carry their passport for foreigners. If you are going to make the police follow the letter of the law, you better be following it too. You have the right to ask for a proper traffic ticket. The police may have the right/responsibility of taking you to jail or to an immigration center and impounding your motorbike, and whatever else the law states for not carrying your proper documents with you.

So fight the corruption all you want. Good for you. Things may take an unexpectedly unpleasant turn for you if the authorities want to play hard ball.
That is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by Jacobincambodia » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:14 am

4000islandsguy wrote:
Soi Dog wrote:
Jacobincambodia wrote: 3. NEVER give your original license over. That's now his leverage. I always carry a copy and usually leave my original at home.
4. Arguing usually commences and I tell the cop I don't carry my original because of corruption.
The law in most countries is that everyone is required to carry their original driver's license or ID at all times, and maybe even carry their passport for foreigners. If you are going to make the police follow the letter of the law, you better be following it too. You have the right to ask for a proper traffic ticket. The police may have the right/responsibility of taking you to jail or to an immigration center and impounding your motorbike, and whatever else the law states for not carrying your proper documents with you.

So fight the corruption all you want. Good for you. Things may take an unexpectedly unpleasant turn for you if the authorities want to play hard ball.
That is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
Which part?
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by StroppyChops » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:28 am

Jacobincambodia wrote:Which part?
You know, I typed exactly response last night, but lost connectivity when I submitted it!
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Re: COPS -- Stop Giving Them Free Money

Post by Kuroneko » Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:17 pm

Fyi Cambodian Traffic Law http://intranet.site-pse.org/index.php? ... &Itemid=22

A few extracts below - Article 41 deals with licences Note if you have a type B you can drive an A1 moto 49cc and below but not a A2 50cc + Article 72 deals with police anti corruption.

ARTICLE 17:
The driving speeds for vehicles in general:
A. In towns:
- The drivers of all motorcycles and tricycles must drive in the maximum speed of 30 km per hour
- The drivers of all kinds of cars must drive in the maximum speed of 40 km per hour
B. Outside towns:
- The drivers of all kinds of vehicles must drive in the maximum speed of 90 km per hour,
except for the trucks with the net weight of over 3.5 tons is limited with 70 km per hour and
the maximum speed of the vehicles with trailers is limited with 60 km per hour

ARTICLE 36:
In case when having the traffic accident, the drivers, all road users involved in the accidents or
by-standers must implement as the following:
1. Stop their own vehicles immediately by preventing any interruption or provoking any harm to the others.
2. To report immediately to the local authority or the traffic police
3. Violence is strictly forbidden between the two related parties.
4. Leaving from the accident site is prohibited prior reaching the agreement or without the
permission from the traffic police.

ARTICLE 41:
Other conditions involving the driving license will be defined as the following:
1- T he drivers can only drive the vehicles based on the types of driving licenses they are holding. The
disabled people obtain the rights to drive the special vehicles and have the special driving license for only the disabled people.
2- The driving license holders must apply for the renewal of the validation before the expiry date of the
driving license. Failure to apply for the renewal of the validation will be fined as set by the law.
3- The age of drivers must be determined in accordance with the types of the driving license as follows:
1- At least 16 years old for type A1
2- At least 18 years old for type A2 and B
3- At least 22 years old for type C and D1
4- At least 24 years old for type D2 and E
4- Those who have the driving license type A2 can drive the vehicle in type A1
5- Those who have the driving license type B can drive the vehicle in type A1, agricultural vehicle or vehicle equipped with usable tools with the maximum speed not over 40km/h, but cannot drive the vehicle in Type A2 or C or D1 or D2 or E.

ARTICLE 72:
Any officials or agents responsible for traffic order used their power to confiscate the driving
license, number plate, identification card or keeping the driver’s vehicle, shall be jailed from 6 (six)
days to one (1) month and or fined from Riel 25,000 to Riel 200,000.
In case the vehicles are damaged or lost any parts due to the detaining, the entity shall be
responsible for the payment. If the level of violation of the police officers or the traffic agents is too
serious, the entity can demand the compensation from the police officers or traffic agents.
The police officers or traffic agents shall be imprisoned from one (1) year to three (3) years
and/or fine from two millions (2,000,000) Riels to six millions (6,000,000) Riels to any traffic officers
or traffic agents that:
- Forced and demanded the fining money against the amounts set by the law
- Obtaining money by using the incorrect fining tickets or do not issue fining tickets to the
fined driver.
- Shall be punished by jailing from one (1) year to three (3) years and or fine from two
millions (2,000.000) Riels to six millions (6,000.000) Riels to any government staff or staff
working directly or those who have duty or task in managing the driving schools or engaging
in the issuance of the driving license and vehicle identification card and have committed
wrong to the article 40 or 48 of this provision.
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