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Concept of Luck vs. work

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Long time lurker, 1st time poster.

Was curious about how when most khmer describe a situation they use the term " I have no luck". " i don't have good luck" .. i have heard it describing their life, job, even a business not doing well ( bar)
I am unsure if they really mean how we define "luck" .. obviously education, hard work, location and many variables come into play. It's even possible luck comes into play..
but curious what are other people's thoughts on this.
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Luck is somnang/Samnang, however you want to romanize it. It just means that: luck. U mess you haven't noticed, it's a very superstitious culture (they often don't even know it themselves). Tons of shit based on old beliefs mixed with Chinese beliefs.
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Good point but for example-- a business failed and it was bad luck.. Actually they said they had to change name of bar because old name was bad luck. As if there are no other variables to the equation?.. take the xample of the bar... location, promotion/marketing ,work ethic, etc... no, none of that.. it was simply luck?

Your def right regarding superstitious culture... was just curious about it..
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My Cambodian ex recently took the personalised plates I gave her for a birthday present off her car in Melbourne as she had had two accidents since they went on and she determined they were responsible for her bad luck accidents. It had nothing to do with her driving of course.
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I have always thought that ''luck '' was the second twin cousin of ''Karma ''.

If your down on your luck, your also down on your karma.
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thanks for that perspective... i feel like at times i am thinking for me and the other person. Then trying to decipher what they really mean as opposed to what they say... lol.. then like fuck it.. let me just not give a fuck and take a step back...
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BklynBoy wrote:Long time lurker, 1st time poster.

Was curious about how when most khmer describe a situation they use the term " I have no luck". " i don't have good luck" .. i have heard it describing their life, job, even a business not doing well ( bar)
I am unsure if they really mean how we define "luck" .. obviously education, hard work, location and many variables come into play. It's even possible luck comes into play..
but curious what are other people's thoughts on this.
Duncan wrote:I have always thought that ''luck '' was the second twin cousin of ''Karma ''.

If your down on your luck, your also down on your karma.
yeah as others have posted, luck is a result of their superstitious beliefs, and linked with Karma,

Karma in Buddhism is more linked to doing good deeds in this life, in order to break samsara to lead to a better life in the next life

where in Hinduism, to which Cambodia has a lot of links to, it has the more action/reaction notion, doing good deeds brings good karma/luck
intentionally doing bad deeds results in bad karma/luck

and OP this refers to some of what you might want to know

As a man himself sows, so he himself reaps; no man inherits the good or evil act of another man. The fruit is of the same quality as the action.
— Mahabharata, xii.291.22

In the thirteenth book of the Mahabharata, also called the Teaching Book (Anushasana Parva), sixth chapter opens with Yudhishthira asking Bhishma:
"Is the course of a person's life already destined, or can human effort shape one's life?"
The future
, replies Bhishma, is both a function of current human effort derived from free will and past human actions that set the circumstances.
Over and over again, the chapters of Mahabharata recite the key postulates of karma theory. That is:
intent and action (karma) has consequences; karma lingers and doesn't disappear;
and, all positive or negative experiences in life require effort and intent.


For example:
Happiness comes due to good actions, suffering results from evil actions,
by actions, all things are obtained, by inaction, nothing whatsoever is enjoyed.
If one's action bore no fruit, then everything would be of no avail,
if the world worked from fate alone, it would be neutralized.

— Mahabharata, xiii.6.10 & 19
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Jamie_Lambo wrote:
BklynBoy wrote:Long time lurker, 1st time poster.

Was curious about how when most khmer describe a situation they use the term " I have no luck". " i don't have good luck" .. i have heard it describing their life, job, even a business not doing well ( bar)
I am unsure if they really mean how we define "luck" .. obviously education, hard work, location and many variables come into play. It's even possible luck comes into play..
but curious what are other people's thoughts on this.
Duncan wrote:I have always thought that ''luck '' was the second twin cousin of ''Karma ''.

If your down on your luck, your also down on your karma.
yeah as others have posted, luck is a result of their superstitious beliefs, and linked with Karma,

Karma in Buddhism is more linked to doing good deeds in this life, in order to break samsara to lead to a better life in the next life

where in Hinduism, to which Cambodia has a lot of links to, it has the more action/reaction notion, doing good deeds brings good karma/luck
intentionally doing bad deeds results in bad karma/luck

and OP this refers to some of what you might want to know

As a man himself sows, so he himself reaps; no man inherits the good or evil act of another man. The fruit is of the same quality as the action.
— Mahabharata, xii.291.22

In the thirteenth book of the Mahabharata, also called the Teaching Book (Anushasana Parva), sixth chapter opens with Yudhishthira asking Bhishma:
"Is the course of a person's life already destined, or can human effort shape one's life?"
The future
, replies Bhishma, is both a function of current human effort derived from free will and past human actions that set the circumstances.
Over and over again, the chapters of Mahabharata recite the key postulates of karma theory. That is:
intent and action (karma) has consequences; karma lingers and doesn't disappear;
and, all positive or negative experiences in life require effort and intent.


For example:
Happiness comes due to good actions, suffering results from evil actions,
by actions, all things are obtained, by inaction, nothing whatsoever is enjoyed.
If one's action bore no fruit, then everything would be of no avail,
if the world worked from fate alone, it would be neutralized.

— Mahabharata, xiii.6.10 & 19
Thanks!!
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