Cloudy, with a chance of Snakes

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Cloudy, with a chance of Snakes

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We often pop across the river on the ferry to have a coffee at Moo Moo Farms. The kids go check on the cows and we always have a joke with them, as they head off down the path between the 2 paddocks where the cows are kept, to “watch out for snakes”.
Now we often see lizards there but, seriously, what are the chances of seeing a snake?

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IraHayes wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:19 am We often pop across the river on the ferry to have a coffee at Moo Moo Farms. The kids go check on the cows and we always have a joke with them, as they head off down the path between the 2 paddocks where the cows are kept, to “watch out for snakes”.
Now we often see lizards there but, seriously, what are the chances of seeing a snake?
So are you going to show the photo of the snake? Or was that just a question? When I go to take photos of Lotus plants, I am very aware I am now in snake territory.
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AndyKK wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:37 am
IraHayes wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:19 am We often pop across the river on the ferry to have a coffee at Moo Moo Farms. The kids go check on the cows and we always have a joke with them, as they head off down the path between the 2 paddocks where the cows are kept, to “watch out for snakes”.
Now we often see lizards there but, seriously, what are the chances of seeing a snake?
So are you going to show the photo of the snake? Or was that just a question? When I go to take photos of Lotus plants, I am very aware I am now in snake territory.
Just a question.

What are the chances of seeing a snake in this area (Moo Moo Farms as shown in the photo)?
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We live well within the city and our area is surrounded by dense residential buildings, though there are a fair number of empty plots of land in the area and a belt of marshy stuff with lots of lotuses out the back, and have had a couple of small snakes (rat snakes) on our property, a friend a few hundred metres down the road has found a python, amongst others, in his place.

With that in mind, we happened to drive by Moo Moo farms yesterday and I would be really surprised if there aren't snakes in the area it is situated in, so snakes may pass through and chill in the paddocks.
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IraHayes wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:48 am
AndyKK wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:37 am
IraHayes wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:19 am We often pop across the river on the ferry to have a coffee at Moo Moo Farms. The kids go check on the cows and we always have a joke with them, as they head off down the path between the 2 paddocks where the cows are kept, to “watch out for snakes”.
Now we often see lizards there but, seriously, what are the chances of seeing a snake?
So are you going to show the photo of the snake? Or was that just a question? When I go to take photos of Lotus plants, I am very aware I am now in snake territory.
Just a question.

What are the chances of seeing a snake in this area (Moo Moo Farms as shown in the photo)?
I don't know that place, but it is that of a country that does have snakes. I would be very aware if I had young children walking around on their own, but I understand they need to learn and also be independent. The apartment block I live at in Phnom Penh, had a lot of carryings on outside, also where the residents children play, there too was a cobra, that maybe a rare thing in the city, but then again rain, bring them to dry ground.

https://english.cambodiadaily.com/news/ ... dia-47812/
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AndyKK wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:37 am When I go to take photos of Lotus plants, I am very aware I am now in snake territory.
Holy Hector!
Not snake territory Andy - Antichrist territory.

I was just watching a mid-west hobby preacher live streaming from his garage (true story)
He had one of his sacred "flash visions" last night (i guess that's like a high speed download from God) of a snake approaching a lotus flower.

Well, as we all know, especially ancient Egyptians and hobby preachers, the serpent is the Antichrist (obviously)
and the lotus flower signals rebirth.
So, ergo, the Antichrist is about to be reborn.

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I don't really know were moo moo farm is,but when we were in kampot acouple of years ago, we stayed at villa Verde, I think that's how you spell it. We were walking from our room to the bar,just after lunch, and there was this dirty big snake laying on the ground, sunning himself, about 4 feet in front of as. His royal highness was in front of me, and just about stepped on it,f**k it was close. We live in west oz,so we have a lot of snakes here, so i always have my eyes on the ground. Never let your children wonder around on there own, if you can help it,snakes love long grass and bushes. Creepy things.(not your children the snakes) 🐍
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SternAAlbifrons wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:38 pm
AndyKK wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:37 am When I go to take photos of Lotus plants, I am very aware I am now in snake territory.
Holy Hector!
Not snake territory Andy - Antichrist territory.

I was just watching a mid-west hobby preacher live streaming from his garage (true story)
He had one of his sacred "flash visions" last night (i guess that's like a high speed download from God) of a snake approaching a lotus flower.

Well, as we all know, especially ancient Egyptians and hobby preachers, the serpent is the Antichrist (obviously)
and the lotus flower signals rebirth.
So, ergo, the Antichrist is about to be reborn.

Try and get a photo of the new baby Andy - the Mirror will pay you a fortune..
People have their beliefs, right or wrong it is of no concern to you or I, you have your wildlife environment, l have.....
But back to snakes there's a good facebook group called "Snakes of Cambodia", lots of information on the site. What would be a concern to me, would getting the person who had been bitten to the correct hospital that could treat the person and have antivenin.

Secrets of Cambodia - the Lotus flower

Lotus flower meaning in Buddhism In Buddhism the lotus flower is known to be associated with purity, spiritual awakening and faithfulness. The flower is considered pure as it is able to emerge from murky waters in the morning and be perfectly clean. Therefore, in common with Egyptian mythology the lotus is seen as a sign of rebirth, but additionally it is associated with purity. The breaking of the surface every morning is also suggestive of desire, this leads to it being associated with spiritual enlightenment.
As Buddhism stems from a different part of the world to Egyptology, there are many more colours of lotus to be seen. So, it is not too surprising that the many different colours have come to be associated with different aspects of Buddhism. The main symbolism of the lotus flower and their meanings are given here.
Blue Lotus: The blue Lotus is associated with a victory of the spirit over that of wisdom, intelligence and knowledge. If you get to see it a blue Lotus in Buddhist art you will notice that it is always depicted as being partially open and the centre is never observed. White Lotus: this colour lotus is known to symbolize Bodhi (being awakened), and represents a state of mental purity, and that of spiritual perfection; it is also associated with the pacification of one’s nature. This lotus is considered to be the womb of the world.
Purple Lotus: known to be Mystic and is associated with esoteric sects. It can be shown depicted as either an open flower or as a bud. The eight petals of the purple Lotus are representative of the noble eightfold path; one of the principal teachings of the Buddha. Following this path is thought to lead to self-awakening, and is considered one of the noble truths.
Pink lotus: this is the supreme lotus and is considered to be the true lotus of Buddha. Red lotus: this is related to the heart, and the Lotus flower meaning is associated with that of love and compassion.
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Re: Cloudy, with a chance of Snakes

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If the Moo Farm is in Cambodia the answer is Yes
If the country is anything like the photographs ^^ Flock Yes
If it is in September in Cambodia and it has been raining recently, Flocking Flock Yes
Yes, that is, to them being there.

But you will have more chance of actually seeing them if you take your shoes off, deeply quieten yourself, open and log-in to every sense receptor in your body,
Then start quietly walking as slowly, but as naturally as humanly possible, into the more open parts of that long grass.
Try to be like a snake and tune every nerve ending on the soles of your feet into vibration sensors. You won't pick up the snake, but you will start to get into the natural vibe.
Remember, terrestrial snakes can feel the vibrations of all but the lightest footfall from quite some distance away. That is why all those snakes that are all around us so often, have long since slipped away long before we see them.

Best time is early morning or late afternoon on a coolish day - in the patches where the sun hits the ground it will be noticeably warmer than the shaded ground around. That's were you most often see snakes. Often dozing and not on highest alert.

That's what i do when i really want to see snakes. anyway. How i learned to see them.
For me too, bare feet is always a handy tool, i always see more wildlife of any kind when wearing them.

But if you just walk around very quietly often enough in the right kinda places you will start to see snakes more often.
You start to see the tree snakes in the shrubs too. it's mostly just a matter of tuning into that natural vibe.
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There are loads of snakes here, especially around any area with undergrowth. Most are very shy so you'll never see them unless you take the advice above. Most are harmless but some are deadly. My son was complaining a year or so back that it was too hot in his grandmother's house which is by a swamp/lake. The problem was that the fan was good but they had to close the door because a python kept trying to slither in and do whatever they do, like strangle kids and eat them? I'm not surprised he doesn't stay there so much anymore. :?

PS there is a great group on Facebook called Snakes of Cambodia where they share pictures and reports about snakes here, you can get expert identification of a species there.
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