CEO rules, playing nice and karma

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Re: CEO rules, playing nice and karma

Post by Username Taken » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:33 pm

OrangeDragon wrote:maybe instead of "top active users" at the bottom of the homepage based on post counts, we should have it based on karma points.

sort of a leaderboard. it would make it have more "meaning" i think, and maybe discourage those seeking to get maximum negative.
You could calculate a posters PQS (posting quality score). This would show how many posts he/she posts for each karma point earned. The lower the score, the better.
For example, Rain Dog only has to make about 2.6 posts before someone gives him karma. Stroppy Chops on the other hand has to make 13.5 posts before getting any karma.

Rain Dog 333 posts / 127 karma = 2.6 posting quality score (PQS)
EdinWigan 429 posts / 138 karma = 3.1 posting quality score (PQS)
giblet 351 posts / 75 karma = 4.6 posting quality score (PQS)
StroppyChops 2658 posts / 200 karma = 13.5 posting quality score (PQS)
OD 2382 posts / 122 karma = 19.5 posting quality score (PQS)

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Re: CEO rules, playing nice and karma

Post by Rain Dog » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:39 pm

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OrangeDragon wrote:maybe instead of "top active users" at the bottom of the homepage based on post counts, we should have it based on karma points.

sort of a leaderboard. it would make it have more "meaning" i think, and maybe discourage those seeking to get maximum negative.
You could calculate a posters PQS (posting quality score). This would show how many posts he/she posts for each karma point earned. The lower the score, the better.
For example, Rain Dog only has to make about 2.6 posts before someone gives him karma. Stroppy Chops on the other hand has to make 13.5 posts before getting any karma.

Rain Dog 333 posts / 127 karma = 2.6 posting quality score (PQS)
EdinWigan 429 posts / 138 karma = 3.1 posting quality score (PQS)
giblet 351 posts / 75 karma = 4.6 posting quality score (PQS)
StroppyChops 2658 posts / 200 karma = 13.5 posting quality score (PQS)
OD 2382 posts / 122 karma = 19.5 posting quality score (PQS)

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Hey! I like those numbers! Great Analysis! :mrgreen:
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Re: CEO rules, playing nice and karma

Post by Rain Dog » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:42 pm

OrangeDragon wrote:let me qualify this thread with this statement: these are some fantastic ideas... i'm tracking them all... and once i get settled after the move and have some time, we'll talk about implementing them.

my goal/plan for the implementation is to take a poll... the top 2 of the poll will get put in place, we'll test them for a while... get feedback/etc... then look at more/different solutions if desired.
Do the winners get Karma Points or just a lame group hug Gmach style?
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Re: CEO rules, playing nice and karma

Post by Joon » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:01 pm

Username Taken wrote:
OrangeDragon wrote:maybe instead of "top active users" at the bottom of the homepage based on post counts, we should have it based on karma points.

sort of a leaderboard. it would make it have more "meaning" i think, and maybe discourage those seeking to get maximum negative.
You could calculate a posters PQS (posting quality score). This would show how many posts he/she posts for each karma point earned. The lower the score, the better.
For example, Rain Dog only has to make about 2.6 posts before someone gives him karma. Stroppy Chops on the other hand has to make 13.5 posts before getting any karma.

Rain Dog 333 posts / 127 karma = 2.6 posting quality score (PQS)
EdinWigan 429 posts / 138 karma = 3.1 posting quality score (PQS)
giblet 351 posts / 75 karma = 4.6 posting quality score (PQS)
StroppyChops 2658 posts / 200 karma = 13.5 posting quality score (PQS)
OD 2382 posts / 122 karma = 19.5 posting quality score (PQS)

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Very smart! I'm impressed. (everybody be computing their PQS.... Mine's 3.73)
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Re: CEO rules, playing nice and karma

Post by ExPenhMan » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:42 pm

Soi Dog wrote:Every time I took away someone's karma they got angry and then posted about it and started hurling personal insults. Then you have the occasional jackass who craves the honor of having the most negative karma and behaves accordingly. For this reason I no longer use the karma function.

I agree with phuketrichard's idea of a like and dislike button (or youtube-style thumbs up and thumbs down) next to each post. It's less personal and more related to particular comments. But regardless, I agree with Giblet. We should all make an effort to let things go, and not feel the need to win every online argument. Get your point across and then let the last-word freaks have their day.

Any parts of a thread that degrade into an overly heated slag-fest should be removed from that thread and moved to their own thread in the asinine area asap.
I like to reward folks for a good thoughtful or helpful post. We don't necessarily need to do this through karma points. A simple peck on a Like button is good enough and doesn't even have to ID the gifter. In terms of karma points, if there any difference between 97 positive points and 213 positive points. Not really. But yeah, I never used the negative karma thing for exactly soi dog's reason. You take away a kid's toy and he screams and lashes out like, well, a little red-faced snot. A poster with few if any Likes to his credit in his profile is to his/her own discredit.

But, I also like the idea of Thumbs Up or Down on posts, displayed for all to see. A gifter does not have to be identified with credit/discredit. Not necessary at all. It also gives Admins a picture of the board's overall feeling for the post/thread and, given a pattern of poor/aggressive/trolling/juvenile/ posts, a picture of the poster should there be a need to give this poster some timeout in the corner.
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Re: CEO rules, playing nice and karma

Post by flying chicken » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:16 pm

Its fun watching children competing for gold stars.
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Re: CEO rules, playing nice and karma

Post by Francis » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:27 pm

OrangeDragon wrote:these are some fantastic ideas... i'm tracking them all... and once i get settled after the move and have some time, we'll talk about implementing them.
Ahhh, just leave it as it is. I'm pretty sure that the majority of posters is able to cope with the existing system. It's not bad at all.

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Re: CEO rules, playing nice and karma

Post by OrangeDragon » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:24 am

Username Taken wrote:
OrangeDragon wrote:maybe instead of "top active users" at the bottom of the homepage based on post counts, we should have it based on karma points.

sort of a leaderboard. it would make it have more "meaning" i think, and maybe discourage those seeking to get maximum negative.
You could calculate a posters PQS (posting quality score). This would show how many posts he/she posts for each karma point earned. The lower the score, the better.
For example, Rain Dog only has to make about 2.6 posts before someone gives him karma. Stroppy Chops on the other hand has to make 13.5 posts before getting any karma.

Rain Dog 333 posts / 127 karma = 2.6 posting quality score (PQS)
EdinWigan 429 posts / 138 karma = 3.1 posting quality score (PQS)
giblet 351 posts / 75 karma = 4.6 posting quality score (PQS)
StroppyChops 2658 posts / 200 karma = 13.5 posting quality score (PQS)
OD 2382 posts / 122 karma = 19.5 posting quality score (PQS)

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VERY cool, this may have to happen sooner than the rest!
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Re: CEO rules, playing nice and karma

Post by vladimir » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:31 am

The idea of karma was a good one, but like so many other good ideas, it made a false assumption, namely that people would be sensible in applying it.

I lost karma simply for disagreeing politely with one guy when the place first started.

People who take any sort of disagreement like that should not be allowed out of the nursery.
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Re: CEO rules, playing nice and karma

Post by Hotdigr » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:56 pm

lol, I lost Karma because I was to busy at work to check the forum for a day. Funnily enough, the fella who took it off me, defended himself a couple of days earlier,after being abused for being to slow to answer another posters question, by saying he actually had a life aside from internet forums and was to busy to answer! I actually think its a bit ridiculous and a "LIKE" button would do the trick. I mean, what is this - a popularity contest? No, its a bloody internet forum and thats ALL it is.
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