Cambodians return home

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Re: Cambodians return home

Post by StroppyChops » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:01 pm

sigmoid wrote:Most likely, these people have been warned by those "in the know" to flee from a failed state that is on the brink of imploding with chaos and conflict before it's too late. =@

Migrants of other nationalities would be wise to follow suit. :arrow:
A friend commented that Thai Airways can't sell tickets at the moment and it's a good time to book future flights (cheaply) - I hadn't considered this. PhuketRichard, at the risk of sounding mercenary, any projections on how long the instability will last?
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Re: Cambodians return home

Post by phuketrichard » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:25 pm

I think ur using the wrong word, the country is not unstable at the moment, maybe there is no elected government, but it is more stable now than at any time since 2006

my crystal ball is at the shop
but talking with long term expats an thais

I think the army will be around for awhile an they might just stay in control till the K passes to prevent the country falling into civil war.
but who knows, easy to be an arm chair critic.

PS; in my 30 years here, various government and a few coups, i have never seen a group pull the country together as the Army has nor have a higher approval from all Thais.
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Re: Cambodians return home

Post by StroppyChops » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:26 pm

^ understood.
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Re: Cambodians return home

Post by Soi Dog » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:54 pm

phuketrichard wrote: PS; in my 30 years here, various government and a few coups, i have never seen a group pull the country together as the Army has nor have a higher approval from all Thais.
...he says from Phuket. I would think there are quite a few Thai folks who own red garments in the North and Northeast that may disagree with you.
Al Jazeera wrote:Military raids and Thai Red Shirt disquiet
In Thailand's 'red' stronghold of Khon Kaen, protests are hushed amid junta warnings and disappearances.
Lizzie Presser and Fabian Drahmoune Last updated: 16 Jun 2014 12:17
Khon Kaen, Thailand - As the Thai military junta stages "happiness" projects in Bangkok, complete with choreographed dancing by soldiers and army selfie stands, locals in this northeastern city are talking about a different kind of performance.

They whisper about armed soldiers entering villages without warning, summoning dissidents with knocks on their doors, and raiding homes and "Red Shirt" radio stations.

The northeast is home to many of the country's poor and rising middle-class farmers, labourers and service workers, and it is also a stronghold of the Red Shirts. These voters are largely supporters of a formerly deposed prime minister, Thaksin Shinawatra, who won them over with populist policies that helped improve living conditions and dramatically reduced poverty.

The Red Shirt movement has mushroomed in the provinces north of Bangkok and a vicious cycle has been born: Red Shirts command the ballot box and elect populist governments and work against institutions aligned with the Bangkok elite trying to take back control.

I saw a truck full of soldiers pass by my house and stop at another. I'm scared that we can't be honest that we're even involved with the Red Shirts.

Since the May 22 coup d'état, the Thai military has publicly summoned and detained hundreds of high-level politicians, activists, academics and journalists, many of whom have Red Shirt allegiances. Their message is clear: Stay out of politics and let the military run the show.
...more

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/featur ... 62406.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Cambodians return home

Post by Cowshed Cowboy » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:22 pm

No one knows the exact number of Cambodian ducks illegally residing in Thailand, but apparently panic has spread that the Thai military are about to crackdown on them and they are heading to the border.

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Re: Cambodians return home

Post by Soi Dog » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:42 pm

Cowshed Cowboy wrote:No one knows the exact number of Cambodian ducks illegally residing in Thailand, but apparently panic has spread that the Thai military are about to crackdown on them and they are heading to the border.

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Are you sure those are Thai or Khmer ducks? They queued far too orderly. Looks highly suspicious.
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Re: Cambodians return home

Post by phuketrichard » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:20 pm

Soi Dog wrote:
phuketrichard wrote: PS; in my 30 years here, various government and a few coups, i have never seen a group pull the country together as the Army has nor have a higher approval from all Thais.
...he says from Phuket. I would think there are quite a few Thai folks who own red garments in the North and Northeast that may disagree with you.
Al Jazeera wrote:Military raids and Thai Red Shirt disquiet
In Thailand's 'red' stronghold of Khon Kaen, protests are hushed amid junta warnings and disappearances.
Lizzie Presser and Fabian Drahmoune Last updated: 16 Jun 2014 12:17
Khon Kaen, Thailand - As the Thai military junta stages "happiness" projects in Bangkok, complete with choreographed dancing by soldiers and army selfie stands, locals in this northeastern city are talking about a different kind of performance.

They whisper about armed soldiers entering villages without warning, summoning dissidents with knocks on their doors, and raiding homes and "Red Shirt" radio stations.

The northeast is home to many of the country's poor and rising middle-class farmers, labourers and service workers, and it is also a stronghold of the Red Shirts. These voters are largely supporters of a formerly deposed prime minister, Thaksin Shinawatra, who won them over with populist policies that helped improve living conditions and dramatically reduced poverty.

The Red Shirt movement has mushroomed in the provinces north of Bangkok and a vicious cycle has been born: Red Shirts command the ballot box and elect populist governments and work against institutions aligned with the Bangkok elite trying to take back control.

I saw a truck full of soldiers pass by my house and stop at another. I'm scared that we can't be honest that we're even involved with the Red Shirts.

Since the May 22 coup d'état, the Thai military has publicly summoned and detained hundreds of high-level politicians, activists, academics and journalists, many of whom have Red Shirt allegiances. Their message is clear: Stay out of politics and let the military run the show.
...more

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/featur ... 62406.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
got to love those red shirts :-)
BANGKOK, June 16 -- Nearly 100 civil servants and local community leaders in the Thailand's Northern region of have been involved in drug dealing, according to Provincial Police Region 5.

Pol Maj Gen Chamnan Ruadrew, Deputy Commander of Provincial Police Region 5, overseeing the upper Northern provinces, said today that nearly 100 civil servants and local leaders in the region were proved to be involved in drug trafficking.

Gen Chamnam reported the officials and governors on the list to the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO), requesting the NCPO to summon them for talks before transferring them out of the areas.
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-- TNA 2014-06-16
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Re: Cambodians return home

Post by phuketrichard » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:24 pm



regardless as always its the people that cant afford to lose, that lose the most.

“This will have an undoubted negative effect on the economies of both countries. It’s going to be a significant problem if something isn’t done,” he said.
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Re: Cambodians return home

Post by flying chicken » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:31 pm

Al Jeera aside. Those are fleeing from Thailand are expats, this movements is not new ever since it was broadcasted live in Bangkok.
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Re: Cambodians return home

Post by phuketrichard » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:41 am

true, anyone living in Thailand that is not thai is an expat. but let us not confuse this mass movement as western expats.

120,000 in a week is a mass exodus of Cambodians
BANGKOK: -- THE MILITARY junta yesterday reiterated it has no policy to crack down on migrant workers here despite the exodus of more than 120,000 Cambodian "illegals", amid rumours of fierce operations targeting them.

"The military has no policy to do anything with migrant workers. There are no troops hunting migrant workers in Thailand," spokesman Winthai Suvari said.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/nationa ... 36412.html

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as to the legal workers being sent back; Burmese , Laotians, Cambodians can be issued with a L-A migrant visa which allows them to work legally for 4 years max, ( it is NOT hard to get) this also allows them the same medical as a thai. After 4 years they must return home.
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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