Cambodians and Suicide

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Cambodians and Suicide

Post by General Mackevili » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:59 am

Suicides are always in the local news. Usually it's someone that hanged themselves in a terribly low-to-the-ground fashion.

I never knew how any Cambodians feel about it, but I just saw a Cambodian friend on Facebook give her stamp of approval of a lady who killed herself because she didn't want her kids to have to pay for her care due to illness. (She also tagged about 20 of her friends in it too, nor surprisingly.)

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Are her thoughts on the matter on par with others? I assume Buddhism might have a big impact on how they think of it, but I'd never seen such a stamp of approval.

And since we're on the subject, an article about another Cambodian lady committing suicide because of health reasons. Looks like she stabbed herself in the legs to do it. Messy and painful. Stories like these make me a huge fan of euthanasia.

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Re: Cambodians and Suicide

Post by Joker Poker » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:21 am

General Mackevili wrote:Suicides are always in the local news. Usually it's someone that hanged themselves in a terribly low-to-the-ground fashion.

I never knew how any Cambodians feel about it, but I just saw a Cambodian friend on Facebook give her stamp of approval of a lady who killed herself because she didn't want her kids to have to pay for her care due to illness. (She also tagged about 20 of her friends in it too, nor surprisingly.)
That's pretty fucked up thinking on her (your friend's) behalf. So if you follow that thinking through, if you get sick you should be expendable if you don't have the money for your care. Are these people bereft of empathy.

Having had a much loved brother die by the same means, these actions are not helpful, it is something that you carry for the rest of your life. I'm guessing that the deceased was not her mother or I doubt she'd be making such an ill-informed statement?
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Re: Cambodians and Suicide

Post by giblet » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:32 am

It's interesting, because so many young Cambodians seem to be willing to ruin their own lives to pay for their parents' medical care (this is often a reason that women go into sex work, at least according to the documentaries I've seen). So maybe while they are willing to make these sacrifices, they secretly wish their sick parent would just die so they wouldn't have to.
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Re: Cambodians and Suicide

Post by General Mackevili » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:33 am

Joker Poker wrote:
I'm guessing that the deceased was not her mother or I doubt she'd be making such an ill-informed statement?
I'm definitely guessing not.

I'd be curious to know if she's had anyone close to her commit suicide.

And sorry to hear about your brother. We've talked about that before. Very sad.
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Post by General Mackevili » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:57 am

giblet wrote:It's interesting, because so many young Cambodians seem to be willing to ruin their own lives to pay for their parents' medical care (this is often a reason that women go into sex work, at least according to the documentaries I've seen). So maybe while they are willing to make these sacrifices, they secretly wish their sick parent would just die so they wouldn't have to.
And here is a working girl buying medications for her mother. I wonder if she secretly shares the same view as my other friend in the OP.

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Post by Joker Poker » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:22 am

giblet wrote:It's interesting, because so many young Cambodians seem to be willing to ruin their own lives to pay for their parents' medical care (this is often a reason that women go into sex work, at least according to the documentaries I've seen). So maybe while they are willing to make these sacrifices, they secretly wish their sick parent would just die so they wouldn't have to.
That's a valid point giblet, but I suspect that more go into sex work because of their desire to have consumer items. They fall in love with the nice clothes, i-phones, gold jewellery, make-up, perfumes and general trappings - and of course, the overarching love of money. Sure they give money to family and dead beat boyfriends, but as I've found out, in face-saving cultures what people tell you is so often not representative of the life they lead.

A lot will tell you that they give nearly all their money to family. But when you get to know them a bit you start to realise how much they squander.
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Re: Cambodians and Suicide

Post by General Mackevili » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:33 pm

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A lot will tell you that they give nearly all their money to family. But when you get to know them a bit you start to realise how much they squander.
True. I think they mean they blew 90% of their money on iPhones, and they give "nearly all of the money that's left afterwards to their family," thus saving nothing.
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Post by ali baba » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:35 pm

Joker Poker wrote: I'm guessing that the deceased was not her mother or I doubt she'd be making such an ill-informed statement?
Joker Poker wrote:That's a valid point giblet, but I suspect that more go into sex work because of their desire to have consumer items.
What are your predictions for this weeks lottery numbers?
Let's put those powers of speculation to good use.
General Mackevili wrote:Suicides are always in the local news. Usually it's someone that hanged themselves in a terribly low-to-the-ground fashion.

I never knew how any Cambodians feel about it, but I just saw a Cambodian friend on Facebook give her stamp of approval of a lady who killed herself because she didn't want her kids to have to pay for her care due to illness. (She also tagged about 20 of her friends in it too, nor surprisingly.)
Why did you interpret her comments as a "stamp of approval"?
If I said I respected Robin Williams in the thread about his suicide would you "guess" that I meant I approved of him committing suicide?
Would you ask me to clarify or ask someone else to speculate on what I may have meant?
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Post by Joker Poker » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:53 pm

ali baba wrote: What are your predictions for this weeks lottery numbers?
Let's put those powers of speculation to good use.
The ones I picked. I'll let you know how I go.
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Re: Cambodians and Suicide

Post by General Mackevili » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:06 pm

ali baba wrote: Why did you interpret her comments as a "stamp of approval"?
If I said I respected Robin Williams in the thread about his suicide would you "guess" that I meant I approved of him committing suicide?
Would you ask me to clarify or ask someone else to speculate on what I may have meant?
To be more accurate and in order to copy what she said, you would be quoted as saying, "Robin Williams killed himself because he was depressed and didn't want his family to have to deal with it. Respect to him."

Yes, if you said that, I would most definitely think that you were giving your "stamp of approval" for his reasoning.
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LoL, good call! If you gave us the winning numbers and he went out and bought 100 tickets, a $1,000,000,000 jackpot would only be worth about $10,000,000 to you.

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