Cambodian clemency sends the right message to democracies around the world

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Re: Cambodian clemency sends the right message to democracies around the world

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I just wanted the bogan clown back in Australia.

I got what I hoped for.

Corinthians gives hope 2nd or 3rd place.
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Re: If only all countries could offer royal pardons...

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britscienceteacher wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:41 am
bolueeleh wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:40 am royal pardon means nothing
Bolueeleh, I can see that you are viewing the issue from a partisan, national perspective. For documentary film makers and journalists worldwide his pardon is seen in a very different context. Personally I think he did cross the line but let me explain the context in which I see it.

RT was refused access to a Macron rally in France. Considering the constant deluge of Russian spy stories in Western media that we are currently seeing (even involving an opposition party leader and the US President) it wouldn't surprise me that, if they (RT) did try to launch a drone for the same purposes, they would have found themselves facing espionage charges too (not that I would disagree with that either - it's new tech and dodgy ground).

John Pilger's lastest does a great job of explaining the current trend in the media world. Cambodian clemency offers a glimmer of hope in this respect. If every country could issue royal pardons, perhaps there would be more clemency in the world (and better media coverage).
oops im sorry but i literally means royal pardon is in fact pardoned by HE n not by the king himself, HE juz tell the king to sign n the king signs it, not literally, there is a dept in HE office that literally signs king's decree, king only literally signs it himself when on some official tv ceremony crap

was told by someone higher up abt this when i got my khmer citizenship, so the so call royal decree for citizenship is actually piece of paper signed by HE robots in his office

maybe im wrong abt this, maybe HE office only signs the mudane stuffs like citizenship n pardons r really sign by the king himself, who knows? but tats wat i was told, everything in kow hv to b taken with a pound of salt, communications is 50% wrong all the time, it is kow after all, dont shoot the messenger
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Re: Cambodian clemency sends the right message to democracies around the world

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StroppyChops wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:45 pm
TOG wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:16 pm I would imagine that the effect on democracies around the world as a result of this case is the square root of zero.
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= 83.6 million AUS!

https://dfat.gov.au/geo/cambodia/develo ... bodia.aspx
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Re: Cambodian clemency sends the right message to democracies around the world

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Yobbo wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:54 pm
StroppyChops wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:45 pm
TOG wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:16 pm I would imagine that the effect on democracies around the world as a result of this case is the square root of zero.
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= 83.6 million AUS!

https://dfat.gov.au/geo/cambodia/develo ... bodia.aspx
Give or take a few million, what with currency conversions (tea money) and the like.
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Can you hear a butterfly's wings beating (topic reminder)?

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britscienceteacher wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:52 pm
TOG wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:41 pm I will however congratulate you on you optimism as that is always a good thing.
Thank you. Please excuse my simple words, it's just how I want to write on this:

Hope is something very basic for me , but essential for good living and enjoyment of life. I think that we all have free will as long as we want it. Free will means that people can choose. Hope means that there are always options available (given enough time and focus) if you can think enough, and figure out how to deal with things.

I've faced what have looked liked brick walls before, only to see the situation spin 180 degrees and new opportunities to present themselves.

I've seen people convinced by lies, living in a bubble and waited patiently, for years, for that bubble to pop, and it did.

These things were not possible without hope. Nobody wrongly accused or persecuted is ever vindicated without hope.

I haven't read your story. That's real life experience, and now common sense to me. And yes I do hope that Cambodian clemency will have a far-reaching effect, like the beat of a butterfly's wings. It's not unknown.
A lively thread with some great contributions:

- A snare laid for maths people by TOG with the help of Aunty Intellectual (imaginary numbers) :stir:
- Snare cleverly triggered and disarmed by Mr Stroppy :hattip:
- An insight on the inner workings of power according to what Bolueeleh has heard :beer3:

But back to the original topic please, is such leniency a forerunner for mercy in other countries? Do you hear the butterfly's wings beating?
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