Cambodia's Prey Sar prison is like hell, says ex-inmate.

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The US prison is purely a business full stop. The war on drugs was to get people into prison for $$ as most prisons are privatized. Mad genius idea if you ask me.
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John Bingham wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:50 pm Interesting footage. I'm not sure that guy is starving, he's more likely got Tuberculosis or some other disease.
The guy who looks like he's starving is a paedophile called Giuseppe there is a thread on this forum
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Thenewstoday wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:29 am
The guy who looks like he's starving...
I meant the Khmer guy who was on the floor nearby.
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John Bingham wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:36 am
Thenewstoday wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:29 am
The guy who looks like he's starving...
I meant the Khmer guy who was on the floor nearby.
Oh sorry I misunderstood, I thought the old guy looked like he was dying more than the other one. And he did.
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John Bingham wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:50 pm Interesting footage. I'm not sure that guy is starving, he's more likely got Tuberculosis or some other disease.
Isn't that the one with a recording studio where kids dubbed foreign cartoons?
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Having experienced first hand the British prison system I disagree strongly with the above poster saying it is all too easy. The penalty of freedom deprivation is and should be just that - the deprivation of freedom. Not torture, hunger or living in squalid conditions. British prisons are tough, not because there is hunger or misery (there is, every day, but not so extreme), but because you are locked up, don't have freedom, and you are on a routine that is not decided by you. That, at least, is somewhat likely to make you a rehabilitated man after you get out. Note that there are many people who are wrongly convicted - anything from a plea deal to things like remand, it all takes toll on people and breaks them down, whether they committed a crime or not. I spent only a few months in a UK prison in my early 20s for fraud, but I benefited a lot from my stay and it helped me not to commit any crime ever since. I read tons of books from the library (I could order titles I wanted), I learned Chinese (had a Chinese cellmate), I practiced piano in the prison's chapel and learned to respect people from whatever background they came from. Please don't complain about the HMP system as it is really able to change people - and it is not too easy. Look at Norway or Holland, and at their reoffending rates. Here (Cambodia), on the other hand, it doesn't matter what your crime is - you will either die, get sick or develop a mental disorder in prison, whether you did the crime or are wrongly accused. Cambodia, as well as many other developing countries, must improve their prisons to ensure the dignity and well-being of their prisoners is preserved.

A society should be judged not by how it treats its outstanding citizens but by how it treats its criminals.

I support Amnesty International (financially - yes) in their fight for better prison conditions in the third world countries such as Cambodia.
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The conditions in prisons here are terrible, but then conditions in various slums not so far away might not be much better.
A society has to take care not to make penal conditions easier than those for the citizens outside who have obeyed the law.

It doesn't even work like that here though, no matter how bad you have been you can get much better conditions just by spending a bit.
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John Bingham wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:59 am The conditions in prisons here are terrible, but then conditions in various slums not so far away might not be much better.
A society has to take care not to make penal conditions easier than those for the citizens outside who have obeyed the law.
That's a good point.
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May 16, 2019
Prey Sar prison expansion underway
The General Department of Prisons has recently started expanding Phnom Penh’s Prey Sar prison to solve its overcrowding problem, a spokesman said yesterday.

Spokesman Nouth Savna said the prison is now undergoing renovation work to add another building and improve the old building’s infrastructure.

He noted that the old building will be retrofitted to have more bunk beds and toilets while a new building will be constructed on its adjoining field.

“It’s true that Prey Sar is overcrowded but our officials are now tackling the problem with alternative solutions,” Mr Savna said. “We are putting in more beds and building more cells so that inmates will have more space.”

Lieutenant General Be Tea Leng, General Prison Department deputy general director, yesterday noted that Prey Sar currently has 7,000 prisoners despite being designed to hold only 2,000.

“Every week, many newcomers arrive here while some are detained behind bars for a long period of time so the number keeps increasing,” he said. “What we can do now is to provide more beds for them.”

A Phnom Penh court official, who asked not to be named, yesterday said that Prey Sar is not able to take in any more inmates, noting that new pre-trial detainees are being sent to Phnom Penh’s Police Judiciary prison that is designed to hold 50 prisoners.

“Prey Sar is now full of inmates and cannot receive any more from Phnom Penh court,” he said. “After the court questions a suspect, he or she will be sent to PJ.”

According to Lt Gen Tea Leng, 28 prisons across Cambodia now house more than 31,000 inmates, an increase of about 20 percent compared to last year. In addition, more than 20,000 inmates are waiting to go through judicial procedures.
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The Last Word wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:00 am The US prison is purely a business full stop. The war on drugs was to get people into prison for $$ as most prisons are privatized. Mad genius idea if you ask me.
Could that be said for the prison system here. I believe that crime should be punished, but if you have monies or a guardian of such your term will be more easy.
Being privatised is only for the means of profit to the country and the business, therefore too the convicted can pay for a easy term. I don't see that's a fair or equal system for the offender, same crime and one poor person and one rich.
Then again would a foreigner have the same opportunity. It must be hell for a foreigner in a prison here.
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