Banksy- art makes you think

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This one appeared this morning, just 30 metres from my back door.
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simple lines, but definitely by an artist's hand
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I take it as an omen, of course
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SternAAlbifrons wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:53 pm This one appeared this morning, just 30 metres from my back door.
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simple lines, but definitely by an artist's hand
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I take it as an omen, of course
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An authentic Banksy/Warhol/Lowry collaboration piece, probably worth $billions.
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That's probably right, Chad, all that too
- but mostly it is a personal message of hope and encouragement from God himself.
i reckon
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SternAAlbifrons wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:31 pm That's probably right, Chad, all that too
- but mostly it is a personal message of hope and encouragement from God himself.
i reckon
But what does the Lowry match stalk figure holding a severed head in one hand and a sardine in the other hand signify?
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SternAAlbifrons, I don't want to sound out of order, but how many beers had you drunk, was it easy to wash the paint from your hands :popcorn:
Always "hope" but never "expect".
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lol

hey....
You make your life out of your most drunken dreams
(well i do anyway)
It's called 'visualising' or "actualising' or 'something'. but it works for me

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SternAAlbifrons wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:37 am I see that bike Andy and i see you.


:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
What of the now finished article Stern, that is it (I am happy with the result), no more painting on this motorcycle (unless I sell it and the buyer happens to come to an arrangement of colour preference). Then and only then I may move on to the next project, with the use of the next available paint product.
Yes, I had seemingly come to the limitations of the use of the paint product, and it was fun in getting there.

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I was even able to add a little sparkle in the end :D
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I thought I would add a little more too the post above -

Painting the bike over a time, let's call it the "pandemic period", but at least I can say it kept me busy many times over this unfortunate period. It has to be said people can think too much, more so at uncertain times like this, but mostly with a result of really no answer to the main problem, thankfully these incidents do not usually occur too often.
Covid19 is like nothing most of us have ever experienced before, although pandemics are nothing new. What we are experiencing now is devastating, but is also nothing unusual.
The last pandemic was 2009–2010: H1N1 swine flu that took a total of 12,469 lives. Swine flu and the novel coronavirus cause similar symptoms such as fever, chills, a cough, and headaches. Both the virus where also significantly different from other known strains. The result being that most people did not and do not have any natural immunity.
Today experts still class HIV as a pandemic, although the HIV virus cannot be transmitted by coughs and sneezes, like the coronavirus. Since the early 1980s, HIV has claimed the lives of more than 32 million. We could compare the death rate between the two, todays Covid19 deaths total 4,989,532.
According to the World Health Organisation, seasonal flu accounts for up to 650,000 deaths worldwide. But those figures have nothing compared to the greatest catastrophe of modern pandemics to date, the flu pandemic of 1918-1919 also known as Spanish flu, wiped out some 50 million people according to research published in the 2000s.

Today, also expected of us in general, we all have to follow the health rules that are laid down for us by the authority in the country that we reside. I think now most of us know this problem with the Covid19 virus is not just going to fissile out.
To make a comparison between three coronaviruses, todays Covid19 and past viruses SARS and MERS have several similarities between each of the coronaviruses; however, there are also some differences. Covid19 cases range from mild to severe, SARS and MERS cases were found to be more severe. Although Covid19 seems to be more infectious spreads more easily.
Medical researchers are trying to get a sense of just how many people catch the virus and remain asymptomatic, that is, they get it and remain contagious but suffer no symptoms. A recent study concluded that “the overall rate of asymptomatic infection is likely at least 30 percent and could be as high as 40 percent to 45 percent.” We can be frustrated that governments and doctors couldn’t mitigate the spread of this virus earlier, but it is really difficult for medical authorities to detect and contain infections when the patients themselves don’t realize that they’re infected.
We are now also coming to the conclusion and understanding, for now that is, we are going to live alongside this particular virus. I for one have faith in the world scientists, unfortunately throughout the pandemic those specialist people have unfortunately been one step behind with the Covid19 virus mutating a number of times.
I still say they have been playing catch up, but have developed vaccines that may possibly reduce the person’s illness if they fall sick to the virus. I can see and hope that they will be getting on top of the situation at some time soon.
Also, for the immediate time, it’s not out of the question for people to except responsibility for one’s own health and welfare, being that of mainly common sense and judgement, a case of taking care and using precautions for oneself and the people around you, these are undoubtedly exceptional times, but when people should and need to do the correct things in today’s society.
Then again, we are talking of a Covid virus, with a similar virus that is the cause of the common cold, or the more serious flu virus that is known to have further complications such has pneumonia, and can also result in death, but how many times may I ask have you managed to avoid that common cold that’s just going around. Covid viruses are not easily avoided.
We too all have our own thoughts and actions, and such overseeing that of our own health and the one’s who also maybe close. It is a little bit difficult to try and give any advice too your neighbour’s, five people in our apartment building have had the virus, and only a few days ago we were told first hand from one young mother, this now was her second time to be infected by the Covid19 virus.
Would you except the free and voluntary vaccines on offer, AZ for over 60 or one of the two Chinese vaccines if you happen to be under 60 years of age. But I personally think the vaccine program has paned out, it may as well be made that of mandatory, firstly due to needing a vaccine card to go into any establishments in Phnom Penh, such has restaurants and bars, super markets and shopping centres. It also looks very probably; it will be needed for any onward travel. I suppose with the World Health Organisation giving the go ahead for the Chinese vaccine to be approved for emergency use in Cambodia, the government had to say it was a voluntary choice, although I don’t see it has so, unless you want life to be harder than normal.
I don't know anything different from anybody else, all I know is I live for today because tomorrow is that of a new day, and we neither know what that day will bring along.
In this period of mostly self-isolation for myself and my Khmer partner, precocious measures you could most definitely say, being that my partner has an illness that she has to unfortunately live with, she is not going to recover, but a daily case of taking her medications, and together we will try and keep her comfortable. For myself I have been in a similar situation with the likes of today’s virus, and I never want to be there again, it being the hardest five years of my life to rid the illness that just had a need to destroy me. I would say both of us have damage to our bodies that getting infected by covid19 would limit our chance of a speedy recovery, nor from past experience I don’t think very highly of any hospital care if you happen to have a problem that as chance to be anything serious although it seems with the Covid19 daily reports the countries medical facilities are managing the situation very well, also exceptional with the country’s vaccine program.
Good health, take care everyone, and keep has safe as you possibly can.

I have always been a busy person, I find a need for something to do, keeping occupied also keeps the mind and body busy. I wish my partner could find herself an interest to do the same, like I have seen with her over past years, but unfortunately, she is ill, and finds normal daily tasks to be difficult, people who have had past illness will know what I am talking about.
Anyway, we are on the subject of painting on this appropriate thread - Banksy- art makes you think by OP BklynBoy » Sun Dec 08, 2019.
The title says, much for myself, I like and appreciate art in many forms, although I am not, or have not been particularly over fond of all Banksy’s work, but then again until this thread I neither knew that much about the artist, although I have seen some of his past works in the UK.
But whatever our personal view maybe on the subject I will say Banksy, that of what we refer too as a well-known, but secretive, political street stencil artist, who has certainly made his own mark, and recognition with that of his own style of art. Love or loth this art, doesn’t matter, there are people who do, and collectors are paying millions today for the artists work at auction.
But what I would also say about the artist and his work, fame you may wish to call it, because it is of something quite rare for living artists work to be sort at today’s prices. Banksy I would say also has mainly helped with the growth and movement of street art and artists in general has we see and recognise in today’s world.
I remember adding to the thread with the 3rd post after the OP.

The opening lines of Wikipedia -
Banksy is an anonymous England based street artist, vandal, political activist, and film director, active since the 1990s.
His satirical street art and subversive epigrams combine dark humour with graffiti executed in a distinctive stencilling technique. His works of political and social commentary have been featured on streets, walls, and bridges of cities throughout the world. Banksy's work grew out of the Bristol underground scene, which involved collaborations between artists and musicians.
Then the following post I was to add sums up what I was mentioning before,

There are only exceptions that artists sell their work while they are living, more so, at the price collectors are willing to pay.
Banksy's quotes when the painting went to auction and with a guide price of between £1.5-2 million. 13 minutes later the hammer went down the painting was sold! £9,879,500
"Record price for a Banksy painting set at auction tonight," he wrote. "Shame I didn't still own it."
After Devolved Parliament went on display in March, Banksy wrote on Instagram: "Devolved Parliament. I made this 10 years ago. Bristol museum have just put it back on display to mark Brexit day."
The whole point I was trying to bring across was it’s a good general forum thread, something that makes comments and, in some ways, also finds its own discussion because of the subject, being popular to all of us in some form or another. Some of you may even sketch or paint, alternatively enjoy your photography in an art form way, or even just look at art has you would come across something you may like, even such has architecture in Cambodia.
Angkor Wat the most magnificent and largest of all Angkor temples, its structure occupies an enormous site of nearly 200 hectares or 494 acres.
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Or maybe you can still see over 200 stone faces looking in all directions of the magnificent Bayon temple.
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Then there’s probably the most photographic of them all, Ta Prohm with trees from the jungle growing out of the ruins. Then in 2001 the action-adventure film Tomb Raider featuring the character Lara Croft, portrayed by Angelina Jolie was filmed on location, that would give Ta Phrom the name commonly referred to as the Tomb Raider Temple, and also bring millions of visitors each year, most wanted their picture taken under the tree that Angelina Jolie stood upon during one of the movie’s action scenes.
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For myself, my first visit to the Angkor Park, was actually looking at the intricately-carved numerous bas-reliefs at Angkor Wat. And also getting to know the work of the American photographer John McDermott, whom began photographing Angkor in 1995 while there to witness a total eclipse of the sun. But it was his photos of the trees that captured my own interest.

https://asiaphotos.net/trees-of-angkor#/

Then again maybe the architectural delight of the Tsubasa Bridge takes your eye, being also Cambodia’s longest bridge to date. Or even the Art Deco landmark of Phnom Penh, Central Market built in 1937.
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I used to sketch in my younger years, there was nothing cheaper than a pencil and jotting pad, hours of pastime would be had. Later in life I never seemed to have the time, work was more important and more time consuming, in some ways, I still had a sense of that creativeness, although the day-to-day work would be paint spraying the livery for most of the leading petroleum oil companies’, although in my spare time, would it be possible that I could now adapt those learnt skills into my own projects.
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Literally working on top of one another, the scaffold tower is not there to protect my paintwork, but allow the signage people to get too their work. The site is on the refresh program due to Shell Oils new livery, giving me a sub-contract work of around 150 sites. It’s not unusual to see different contractors, trade people on site, because it’s not out of the ordinary for the work onsite to be completed over a 3-day period, also the site (filling station) will continue to operate, staying open to the general public.
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My work was not only to spray paint the petrol dispensers, but to paint all that was needed to be painted on site. The main reason I got this type of work from the leading oil companies, apart from completing on time, would be because my required skills would allow me to refurbish the part in the next photo, back to looking new and original.
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This site too was in Bristol, maybe I will have chance to see a Banksy.

The Bristol scene has a strong relationship between music and visual art, particularly graffiti art. A founding member of the band Massive Attack, Robert Del Naja, originally a graffiti artist, and local graffiti artist Banksy, have gone on to produce album covers and artworks. Inkie, collaborator alongside Banksy, also took part in Bristol's counter-culture scene.
Massive Attack are an English electronic band formed in 1988 in Bristol by Robert "3D" Del Naja, Adrian "Tricky" Thaws, Andrew "Mushroom" Vowles and Grant "Daddy G" Marshall. The band currently consists of Del Naja, Thaws and Marshall, with Shara Nelson and Horace Andy as guest vocalists.



Many graffiti artists work in Bristol, including Banksy, an anonymous, English graffiti artist who designed album covers for bands like Blur and Monk & Canatella. Banksy has produced art work in Barcelona, New York City, Australia, London, San Francisco and the West Bank. He uses his original street art form to promote alternative aspects of politics from those displayed by the mainstream media. Some believe that his graffiti helps to provide a voice for those living in urban environments that could not otherwise express themselves, and that his work is also something which improves the aesthetic quality of urban surroundings. Others disagree, asserting that his work is simply vandalism.

There has long been an interplay between the different music and art scenes in Bristol. Del Naja of the band Massive Attack was initially a graffiti artist, "indeed, his first ever live gig was as a DJ accompanying artwork he had produced in a gallery in Bristol".
The 80s, were that of a good time for myself with what was happening, evolving around my life at the time.

Although when I did make the move to Cambodia, I thought at first, I would avoid painting! I think deep down, the feeling was, that I had done this for a lot of years and now it may be possible for a change, by giving it a break or even not painting at all. but it’s not that easy to give up something that you have been involved with for most of your working life, and something what one may even possibly enjoy. Like I have mentioned I needed something to fill my time, something you may know well is an easier option and choice.

I also made the choice to use spray paint cans, not wanting to put the expense into a compressor and spray guns. Also, it’s not really appropriate living in an apartment building.
I started with a Thai product, but soon went onto a more readily available Cambodian acrylic product, using the single colours and finishing with the clear lacquer.

I have known a few people here have their motorcycles painted, and cheaply for around $20 to $30. I don’t seem to have that kind of luck! I was at one stage chasing around for 2K lacquer, only finding what I expected, and would need a spray gun and compressor, and obviously better because of the amount you can apply. But I have no compressor or spray gun. I do know of the paint brand, Samurai, also of their stockist and agents. They have the 2K product, in a spray can.
The price range of Samurai paint products are from $2.50 - $13.00.

https://www.samuraipaint.com.kh/

So, anyhow I asked here and there, one particular place being outside the Chber Ampov market office under the Old Monavong Bridge. I turned up on the small bike, that I had recently painted, and had rubbed down the now cured paint surface to except a good coat or two of clear coat (lacquer). I explained to the two spray painters who worked on spraying motorcycles, that I would also remove the panels, mask where necessary and put the panels back on when the job was completed. So, the work for them was minimum, pull the spray gun trigger one or two coats needed. $80 per coat was the quote. I just got on the bike and rode away.

I started the painting basically with a straight or single colour to the bike.
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One of the Wat temples near to my home is a quite peaceful area and very photographic, hell of a background you could say. The last visit I made, the gates were securely bolted, no visits at that particular time.
But the straight colour wasn’t going to do it for me, I wanted to experiment, and see what I could do with this paint, a single product in a spray can. Price $1.25 per can.
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Some of you that may know different paint products will know that 2K paint offers far more resistance too patrol. Also, Acrylic paint will easily wash off with any sign of petroleum. But not so with sensible curing times. Also, this acrylic product can with the use of petrol and other substances work too your advantage. The use of a hair dryer will speed up curing times to put on another colour, or even blend two or more colours within reason.
Also, to get some of the paint effects I used material, with similarities and the likes of what Banksy was doing with his use of stencils.
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I find that this technique is a very interesting concept, more so on the lines of what control the painter has, or at times doesn’t have. Believe me, it also depends on how far you want to go, preparation is always the underlying key to most painting and that of its surface, using this type of application the painter may have to prepare between coats of continuous different colours. Again, has I have mentioned with the use of this acrylic product there are no end of possibilities of applying single coats of different colours, and adding additional coats of clear lacquer to stand those colours away from one another, or the opposite could be to blend the colours by application of wet coats one on top of another.

The grey colour here is to setup the start of another process of layers, again one colour laid upon the next, different materials can be used at this stage also to obtain design and effect.

I have mentioned the possibilities of some aspects in the use of this product. Has far has drying, Cambodia offers the painter a natural heated spray booth. So different from my last painting in the outside environment of the UK. That doesn’t sound too bad, but add that about 80% of my work was carried out over the British winter time, due to the contacts, and the main contactors wanting to spend oil profits before the tax man could get his hands on it in April. Ever tried spraying paint up in the Scottish Highlands in a snow blizzard.
Back to today in Phnom Penh, the spray paint from an aerosol can is at the least to say, thin. Using the product, has to be done, such to apply thin and not heavy coats, so not to get runs. The aim is to get an even coverage of paint, easier done when the surface is flat, but motorcycle tanks have curved edges, and over paint those curves will give you in return problems. Again, there are things to help, such has a normal household fan, or hairdryer to speed up the overall drying process, the use of the hairdryer is ideal too, in blending colours together has well has drying between coats. Don’t worry about quickly drying the paint, because then the paint seems to have lost its gloss or shine, the finishing coat of clear lacquer will bring the overall shine back.
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I found some low tac, or lining tape but I found it too be unusable on the painted surface due to it having too much tac (glue). I always take off surplus glue from tapes by holding a length of tape by both hand and moving it from side to side, on my trouser leg, the glue is lessened and the tape less taky. This way you get no glue residue on the surface.
If using masking tape, its best to recut the length where the paint edge is going against, still there’s no guarantee the paint will not creep under.
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Has the old product of metalflake paint I managed to replicate the effect by adding ladies loose nail glitter in between coats of lacquer. The lacquer is applied in has many coats to cover the glitter so there is an overall even smooth finish.

Zoom on finished paintwork. The paintwork now has added sparkle.
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Thought I would add this about Banksy that I saw in the news.

https://news.yahoo.com/banksy-art-paint ... 07883.html

Enjoy.
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Kampuchia Crumbs wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:57 am Thought I would add this about Banksy that I saw in the news.

https://news.yahoo.com/banksy-art-paint ... 07883.html

Enjoy.
Interesting article with link's to other stores, thanks for that Kampuchia.
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