Blast from the past 1988
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Blast from the past 1988
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Re: Blast from the past 1988
Great find, Rich.
The word snake comes to mind.
The only appealing thing in the whole clip is the labrador.
The word snake comes to mind.
The only appealing thing in the whole clip is the labrador.
Re: Blast from the past 1988
Butcher of Cambodia set to expose Thatcher's role The Guardian Sun 9 Jan 2000 )
In a classic piece of Cold War realpolitik, Britain - prompted by the Americans - appears to have given military assistance to the Khmer Rouge-led coalition, despite knowing of Pol Pot's atrocities, in an attempt to limit the power of the Soviet-backed Vietnamese.
Contacted in his prison cell through an intermediary last week, he confirmed to The Observer that the extent to which London and Washington helped the Khmer Rouge in their fight to control Cambodia would be revealed during his trial. The evidence will contradict statements made by Margaret Thatcher's Government - which authorised the operation at the time.
Ta Mok's lawyer, Benson Samay, said the court would hear details of how, between 1985 and 1989, the Special Air Service (SAS) ran a series of training camps for Khmer Rouge allies in Thailand close to the Cambodian border and created a 'sabotage battalion' of 250 experts in explosives and ambushes. Intelligence experts in Singapore also ran training courses, Samay said.
To allow Ministers to deny helping the Khmer Rouge, the SAS was ordered to train only soldiers loyal to the ousted Prince Norodom Sihanouk, and the liberal democrat former Prime Minister, Son Sann, who were fighting alongside Pol Pot's Communists. However, Samay said the court would be told the Khmer Rouge benefited substantially from the British operation.
'All these groups were fighting together - but the Khmer Rouge were in charge. They profited from any help to the others. If they had won the war outright, then Pol Pot would have been back in charge,' Samay said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/jan/09/cambodia
In a classic piece of Cold War realpolitik, Britain - prompted by the Americans - appears to have given military assistance to the Khmer Rouge-led coalition, despite knowing of Pol Pot's atrocities, in an attempt to limit the power of the Soviet-backed Vietnamese.
Contacted in his prison cell through an intermediary last week, he confirmed to The Observer that the extent to which London and Washington helped the Khmer Rouge in their fight to control Cambodia would be revealed during his trial. The evidence will contradict statements made by Margaret Thatcher's Government - which authorised the operation at the time.
Ta Mok's lawyer, Benson Samay, said the court would hear details of how, between 1985 and 1989, the Special Air Service (SAS) ran a series of training camps for Khmer Rouge allies in Thailand close to the Cambodian border and created a 'sabotage battalion' of 250 experts in explosives and ambushes. Intelligence experts in Singapore also ran training courses, Samay said.
To allow Ministers to deny helping the Khmer Rouge, the SAS was ordered to train only soldiers loyal to the ousted Prince Norodom Sihanouk, and the liberal democrat former Prime Minister, Son Sann, who were fighting alongside Pol Pot's Communists. However, Samay said the court would be told the Khmer Rouge benefited substantially from the British operation.
'All these groups were fighting together - but the Khmer Rouge were in charge. They profited from any help to the others. If they had won the war outright, then Pol Pot would have been back in charge,' Samay said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/jan/09/cambodia
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Re: Blast from the past 1988
Death is the only form of justice, she died senile crapping her diapers.
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Re: Blast from the past 1988
It can seem amazing in hindsight but in those days an enemy of the USSR and allied states was a friend of the west and ASEAN. Why else would the west start normalizing relations with the PRC starting in the early 70s? During the Cultural Revolution when some very dubious policies were in place? Cambodia was unfortunately one of the Cold War's battleground victims. It doesn't seem to have affected society much, it's still mandarins and serfs.
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Re: Blast from the past 1988
Seems amazing ^^ that the UK and most of the other UN members (under pressure ) would support Pol Pot for greater geo-political aims? [- b]After[/b] everybody knew their of their crimes.
What seems amazing? Why "in hindsight"?
Look at the long line of torturing murdering regimes that our "the leaders of the free world" have installed and supported in our lifetimes. And still today.
What's different?
What seems amazing to me is that this is usually accepted as perfectly normal and acceptable most of the time.
This kind of stinking hypocrisy has always been very hard for me to accept. It is a big part of the reason i have have felt so alienated from general society since.... when?
- since about when i saw mass murder dropped from the sky every night on the 6 o'clock news all thru my teenage years.
What seems amazing? Why "in hindsight"?
Look at the long line of torturing murdering regimes that our "the leaders of the free world" have installed and supported in our lifetimes. And still today.
What's different?
What seems amazing to me is that this is usually accepted as perfectly normal and acceptable most of the time.
This kind of stinking hypocrisy has always been very hard for me to accept. It is a big part of the reason i have have felt so alienated from general society since.... when?
- since about when i saw mass murder dropped from the sky every night on the 6 o'clock news all thru my teenage years.
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Re: Blast from the past 1988
That Margaret Thatcher would on national TV say that there were good and bad factions within the Khmer Rouge. This was someone who refused to recognize the parallel disaster that was happening in the UK at the time.
Silence, exile, and cunning.
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Re: Blast from the past 1988
lol
actually - the whole the flocking circus is amazing
everyday
never loose your amazement at the world boys and girls
it's the gift that just keeps on giving...
actually - the whole the flocking circus is amazing
everyday
never loose your amazement at the world boys and girls
it's the gift that just keeps on giving...
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Re: Blast from the past 1988
History repeats. Jab up peeps
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Re: Blast from the past 1988
Great woman
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