Best Way To Get A Motorbike?

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Re: Best Way To Get A Motorbike?

Post by Electric Earth » Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:46 pm

So you can register a moto if it's just new to Cambodia? Could I register a used bike from Vietnam or Thailand in my name? Do I need a Cambodian license to do that, or is it no problem as long as it's a small engine bike?
Do you think the parents of baby boomers whined so much when the boomers started changing society? And yet the whiney ones like to call young people "snowflakes." Hmm...
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Re: Best Way To Get A Motorbike?

Post by Spigzy » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:36 pm

Electric Earth wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:46 pm
So you can register a moto if it's just new to Cambodia? Could I register a used bike from Vietnam or Thailand in my name? Do I need a Cambodian license to do that, or is it no problem as long as it's a small engine bike?
No, only bikes sold at official dealers (Honda, Suzuki official dealers- not even franchises to my knowledge) are "New" & eligible to be registered to a foreigner.

Any second hand bike, even if brought over the border somehow & never seen previously must be registered to a Khmer.

Where's James Bong when you need him. :assasin:
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Re: Best Way To Get A Motorbike?

Post by khmerhamster » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:59 pm


Spigzy wrote:
Electric Earth wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:46 pm
So you can register a moto if it's just new to Cambodia? Could I register a used bike from Vietnam or Thailand in my name? Do I need a Cambodian license to do that, or is it no problem as long as it's a small engine bike?
No, only bikes sold at official dealers (Honda, Suzuki official dealers- not even franchises to my knowledge) are "New" & eligible to be registered to a foreigner.

Any second hand bike, even if brought over the border somehow & never seen previously must be registered to a Khmer.

Where's James Bong when you need him. :assasin:
Not sure that's true Spigzy.
I'm 95% sure that 'warehouse' bikes. Ie second hand bikes that are imported and never previously registered in Cambodia can be registered in foreign name. I would have assumed a new, bought from franchise, bike could also be done as long as the franchisee hasn't already registered in his name.
Only 95% sure though...
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Re: Best Way To Get A Motorbike?

Post by Electric Earth » Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:18 pm

Well, I'll research/try to register and update when I get to an answer. I'm probably buying a Vietnamese "Honda" Win on Saturday. I know they're supposed to be POS bikes, but it's pretty cheap and I want something to get me around town for now. The guy at the shop(Joe Bar Garage) claims it just had $120 worth of parts/work done and is currently in good working order and shouldn't break down soon. I think he has a pretty good reputation in Siem Reap, so hopefully the bike is solid. ...for now.
Do you think the parents of baby boomers whined so much when the boomers started changing society? And yet the whiney ones like to call young people "snowflakes." Hmm...
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Re: Best Way To Get A Motorbike?

Post by AndyKK » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:34 am

Has anyone got a copy of the relevant law on this subject?

I bought my moto Honda msx 125 in Kampong Cham and had it registered in my name.
2nd bike I have bought in Phnom Penh from a bike dealer 2nd hand with registration card of last owner, plate and tax paper, due to import.
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Re: Best Way To Get A Motorbike?

Post by pczz » Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:55 am

Yerg wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:19 am
pczz wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:59 am
Electric Earth wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:14 am
pczz wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:23 am
There is a lot of confusion about this... so up to you
Out of curiosity, because this is my first motorbike here, how did you deal with the situation when they first pulled you over? I don't think there's any confusion about it. You definitely can't Legally have a bike if you're white. Living here, you know there are Tons of westerners riding around on motos. You'll likely get pulled over at some(or multiple) point. Douche-bags who function on racism and corruption/greed are facts of life, and they're more blatant about it here. I do have a pretty friendly face and work for a respectable school in town, so that will be helpful when I open my wallet to pull out my $5 bribe money and my school ID is right there.
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Was the problem the fact you couldn't show the (ownership) card, or the fact the card was not in your name?
I could see this as being a problem.
WHen i was stopped it was because I couldnot show the ID card. My friend had an ID card but in his gf name.
The policeman was an awkward prick. he asked for the card and when i couldn't give it to him he made me park up the bike and said the owner would have to get it from police station in the morning. he then turned his back on me and refused to discuss it further. i had to communicate through his junior wingman. The ownere is a governemt official and after a brief phone call I was allowd to go after paying 2,500 riel
My friend was not so lucky. they refused $10 and he had to go get it from police station next day, where he was also charged 2,500 riel. pathetic fine really.You can legally have a buike but yu have to be the first person to register it, so it needs to be brand new or an unregistered import.
My normal reaction with the police is to apologise for being stupid and ask if he can help me as its my first time in Cambodia. they are usually so shocked at a whitey not shouting at them that they get helpful, but no this dickhead
I had a 250 Duke, and got stopped. It cost me $10 to get the guy to leave me alone. I played dumb, polite and smiley, and he was good with that.
$10! when they stopped my friend and asked for that he asked him for a receipt. price dropped very quickly :-)
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Re: Best Way To Get A Motorbike?

Post by AndyKK » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:54 pm

general-chatter/registering-moto-new-ru ... ml#p215245

.MOTO ANNOUNCEMENT

Due to many inquires from clients about registering motos in Phnom Penh, we have been to the ministry seeking further information.

A recent law has been passed that denies any foreigner from registering a moto in his/her name. It is no longer possible to become a registered owner of a used moto if you do not obtain Cambodian citizenship.
The only exception being, when foreigners purchase a brand new, or newly imported moto being registered for the first time.

If you have a spouse, partner or someone you trust, who is a Cambodian citizen, you may register in their name.
This being said, there is no current law that states you must be the registered owner of the vehicle you are driving.

If you require this service the following guidelines must be followed;

-The new owner’s Cambodian ID card must be from Phnom Penh
-The current registered owner must attend
-The seller must attend
-The current plate number must be from Phnom Penh
-Copies of buyer’s, seller’s and registered owner’s Cambodian ID cards must be submitted
-$30 application fee (applies for any moto, of any size)

The current Department of Public Works and Transportation office for completing this service is located in Chroy Changvar.
Here; https://goo.gl/maps/4FxreWxKVJS2
(Also, see attached picture of front entrance)

If you require us to help, we will start offering this service for a small service fee.

Feel free to inquire by contacting our Fb page. CNM Motors

This is from a previous post on the law, here it also states there is no law to be the registered owner.
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Re: Best Way To Get A Motorbike?

Post by phuketrichard » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:14 pm

how are all these Barangs selling bikes on fb to other Barangs, IF it cant be put in their name?
Or are they all viet bikes ( see a lot of those)

BUT:
....there is no current law that states you must be the registered owner of the vehicle you are driving.
:thumb: :thumb:

so CNM can only help if its a PP based bike
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Re: Best Way To Get A Motorbike?

Post by Spigzy » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:10 pm

Barang A gives Barang B cash.
Barang B gives Barang A moto & ownership card.

Barang A gives ownership moto+card to trusted Khmer to register & have some level of comfort.
OR
Barang A doesn't give a monkeys uncle & just rides it without care if they get stopped & cleaned out of Hamiltons.

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Re: Best Way To Get A Motorbike?

Post by Roadie » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:08 pm

Certainly when I enquired at the new bike dealership they just said "not without Khmai ID" and then ingnored me. No intention of selling me anything. I guess like anything in Cambodia, they do what they feel like.
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