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Soi Dog=clueless in Cambodia.

UKJ: That's 17 different attorneys I had to defend myself against, not 17 different attorneys that defended me. No, not a fair and uncorrupted system.

In America there is one attorney for every 365 US citizens and they all bill by the hour unless someone like Microshit or the federal government foots the bill.
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Sailorman- for the hundredth time wrote: In America there is one attorney for every 365 US citizens
Too bad it isn't one psychiatrist for every 365 US citizens instead. That way maybe you could have gotten the mental help you so desperately need.
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Restrained man dies in UK a few days ago - He could have got killed in the fight. These things happen when you fight people.

The force said: “Police were called to a disturbance outside of the bar on the Esplanade in Paignton involving an altercation between two men and door staff. During the incident the 38-year-old man, while being restrained, became unconscious and following CPR by officers at the scene, was conveyed by ambulance to Torbay district hospital.

“He sadly died in hospital during the evening of Saturday 2 May. Four men were arrested in connection with the incident, aged 43, 54 and two aged 35. One of the 35-year-old men has been released with no further action, while the three other men – all arrested on suspicion of affray – have been given police bail pending further enquiries.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... -devon-pub
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UKJ wrote:Restrained man dies in UK a few days ago - He could have got killed in the fight. These things happen when you fight people.

The force said: “Police were called to a disturbance outside of the bar on the Esplanade in Paignton involving an altercation between two men and door staff. During the incident the 38-year-old man, while being restrained, became unconscious and following CPR by officers at the scene, was conveyed by ambulance to Torbay district hospital.

“He sadly died in hospital during the evening of Saturday 2 May. Four men were arrested in connection with the incident, aged 43, 54 and two aged 35. One of the 35-year-old men has been released with no further action, while the three other men – all arrested on suspicion of affray – have been given police bail pending further enquiries.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... -devon-pub
surely the cops were former americans or something!?
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Sailorman wrote:Soi Dog=clueless in Cambodia.

UKJ: That's 17 different attorneys I had to defend myself against, not 17 different attorneys that defended me. No, not a fair and uncorrupted system.

In America there is one attorney for every 365 US citizens and they all bill by the hour unless someone like Microshit or the federal government foots the bill.
for all you're "i was innocent!" you still haven't given the full details of your case here... how about it? care to tell the viewing audience what you're accused of and the details and evidence on the case?
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OrangeDragon wrote:
UKJ wrote:Restrained man dies in UK a few days ago - He could have got killed in the fight. These things happen when you fight people.

The force said: “Police were called to a disturbance outside of the bar on the Esplanade in Paignton involving an altercation between two men and door staff. During the incident the 38-year-old man, while being restrained, became unconscious and following CPR by officers at the scene, was conveyed by ambulance to Torbay district hospital.

“He sadly died in hospital during the evening of Saturday 2 May. Four men were arrested in connection with the incident, aged 43, 54 and two aged 35. One of the 35-year-old men has been released with no further action, while the three other men – all arrested on suspicion of affray – have been given police bail pending further enquiries.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... -devon-pub
surely the cops were former americans or something!?
I think some go to the USA for the " killing random innocents" course. They don't have the finesse of the Americans though, as they took out a taxpayer :roll:
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I think he mentioned it was a divorce case. His wife probably got her fair share of their joint assets for putting up with his ass for so long and now he thinks lawyers are evil.
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OrangeDragon wrote:
Sailorman wrote:Soi Dog=clueless in Cambodia.

UKJ: That's 17 different attorneys I had to defend myself against, not 17 different attorneys that defended me. No, not a fair and uncorrupted system.

In America there is one attorney for every 365 US citizens and they all bill by the hour unless someone like Microshit or the federal government foots the bill.
for all you're "i was innocent!" you still haven't given the full details of your case here... how about it? care to tell the viewing audience what you're accused of and the details and evidence on the case?

:please: dont encourage him to go on and on about the corrupt us court system,police an lawyers

Anyone growing up in the states as seen or heard of it but its a very small minority
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OrangeDragon wrote: I love how you, yourself, underline 3 things... then give credit to only one of them (the ones that sounds so nasty and vicious, but only lasted [apparently] 15 seconds) as the cause of death, then the ME... as you underlined... accredited it to 3 things.
I underline things because you seem to willingly ignore the most basic and accepted facts of the case.

FACT #1: The guy was hardly a "menace to society". At worst, he was selling untaxed cigarettes by the stick. Even this was never proven. Great job NYPD, you removed him from society. I am sure the citizens of NYC feel so much safer. :facepalm:

FACT #2: The guy was threatening nobody. He did not need to be restrained. He pulled his arm away when a cop grabbed at it and said something along the lines of "Please stop harassing me -- this needs to stop now".

FACT #3: The cop killed him. It was caught on videotape and the coroners office ruled the death a "homicide".

FACT #4: Certainly pre-existing conditions contributed to his death, but that does not justify the use of deadly force ... which is what killed him. There is a reason that hold is banned by the NYPD. It does not take any level of "genius" to see that putting an unarmed, obese, grandfather in a deadly choke-hold, and then have 4 cops lie on top of him as he gasps "I can't breathe" eleven times ---- might somehow cause injury or death to him.

FACT #5: He got off scot free --- and you wonder why people are pissed off?
OrangeDragon wrote: You also chose to ignore the "no damage to his windpipe or neck bones was found" part that indicates that, since 15 seconds without airflow isn't enough to kill anyone, it was likely not him being, as you said earlier, "choked to death". If you can't breathe, you can't tell anyone you can't breathe. Voices work by forcing air (from breath) over the vocal chords.
A debate on vocal chords now? :facepalm: Utter Rubbish. The hold applied was basically what the UFC calls a Rear Naked Choke. If you have ever watched a UFC fight then you will see that highly trained, professional, bad-ass, athletes "tap out" or are rendered unconscious in a matter of just a few seconds when such a hold is locked in. There was a case recently where the referee was slow to intervene and a fighter started foaming at the mouth while unconscious -- being in the hold for only 5 seconds. If this hold can do this to some of the most bad-ass athletes in the world ---- why do this to an unarmed, non-threatening, obese, grandfather?
OrangeDragon wrote: You brought up the swedish police earlier... did you notice that a) the video starts after the people have been taken down and doesn't show what takedown they used, and b) that one of the individual used the very same "i can't breathe" excuse? Did you notice the guy on top of him didn't move or loosen his hold? know why? it's a bullshit excuse criminals regularly use to try and get free.... despite how that may conflict with your internal narrative.
I never mentioned Sweden or Swedish. No idea what you are on about. Again A) There is zero evidence the guy was a threat to anyone. B) A banned and deadly choke hold was applied to him. C) Four Cops piled on to him. D) He died due to this unprovoked attack on him E) The death was ruled a homicide G) He walked away with no disciplinary action.

What else is there left to argue OD?

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R.D IS 100% correct. His death was essentially over taxes. Granted the cops warned him numerous amounts of times to stop selling loose cigarettes and the store owner complained many time about him doing it.

I deff know where O.D is coming from but after seeing the dictator in chief send 500 million to Yemen in "Aid" while this guy died over 50cents is fucking retarded and beyond fucked up it makes me sick.

A pack of smokes are about $15 in NY who does this hurt the most? The poor. You guys know about the soda ban 2 years ago? Who was that aimed at? The poor.
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