Yerg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:08 pm

Electric Earth wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:33 pm
As for "if you can't afford the emergency, you couldn't afford the holiday," does that mean you don't think that anyone who doesn't have ~$6,000 Extra(on top of planned thousands for said travel) in the bank to dump on potential international pandemic outbreak plane tickets should never be able to take a vacation? And no one with debt should ever be able to take a vacation? That seems like a pretty shitty attitude given the world we live in now. Our world economy got fucked by the current ruling group and this isn't the easy 1960's-early 2000's anymore. Large corporations and profits run the world and there's no balance. Lots of people(most? at least in the US it is) that weren't adults that had started in careers and building capital during that time are either in serious debt or poor. It's a different time. I don't think that means no one should ever be able to take a vacation or try living abroad for a while. And you can't leave out refused refunds, taking money for flights that aren't gonna happen, etc, because that's just part of the world we live in now. That's a factor that has to be taken into account.

Pretty much, yes. It might be a shitty attitude, IYHO, but it is what it is.

I wasn't leaving out refunds or non-refundable flights, per se, they were conversations for another time. I'm still waiting 3 weeks later for a refund for a cancelled flight, despite airline assurances that I would receive my refund within 7 days. Airlines can be shit-bags at the best of times, but holding on to people's money for a product/service they aren't supplying is a new low, even for them.

Yerg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:08 pm Airlines can be shit-bags at the best of times, but holding on to people's money for a product/service they aren't supplying is a new low, even for them.

TeachingForPeanuts wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:15 am Apparently the Australian embassy is telling its citizens "There won't be a charter flight, your only chance to leave Cambodia is on a commercial flight, book a flight to Japan now and then figure out how to get to Australia from there."

And the Aussie citizens in Cambodia are saying "Nope, we'll wait for the charter flight."

Japan on Brink of Emergency as Coronavirus Spreads: Government Spokesman
02/04/20 21:23

TOKYO, March 31 (Reuters) - Japan remains on the brink of a state of emergency as the rate of coronavirus infections continues to increase in the country, its top government spokesman said on Wednesday.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga told reporters controlling the virus was a top priority, and that the government would do “whatever is needed” to minimise the economic impact after a nationwide poll released earlier in the day showed a pessimistic turn in sentiment among manufacturers because of the virus.

siliconlife wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:25 am If you are an Australian in Cambodia, please contact the embassy:

https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50709571/u ... ablo-kang/

"Flight options to Australia are becoming increasingly scarce. If you are an Australian in Cambodia seeking to get home, you should start to prepare yourself for the possibility you may not be able to get out for a while. The Australian Government is not currently planning any charter flights.

There are still some commercial flights, but details change from day to day, often at very short notice. Some of these flights are also very expensive.

Unless you can be sure that the flight is viable, before paying for tickets you should consider whether to proceed or save your money, in case you will need it on things such as food and accommodation over the medium to longer term in Cambodia.

As part of good planning, you should prepare for the worst case possibility of an extended stay. You should think now about what you, your family or travelling companions will need. Where will you stay? How can family and friends contact you? From where are the best places to get food, water and medicine? Do you have enough cash for every day essential items?

Please email the embassy ([email protected]) with your name, location, contact details and the details of anyone travelling with you. Follow our social media channels (Facebook and Twitter) for regular updates. We are here in Cambodia too and we are all in this together."

Electric Earth wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:39 pm

truffledog wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:15 pm I guess this no refund happens only if the flight is operating and you dont show up? Taking your money while cancelling the flight with no rebooking offer/refund seems robbery to me. Is this really happening with other airlines? Fuck that if its true.

No, the no refund isn't happening only if the flight is operating and you don't show up. It's happening to people who's flights are being cancelled. And yeah, it is robbery and fuck that. Glad it worked out for you and you got a decent airline who refunded you. There are Many stories of them not. And then people have spent thousands on flights that didn't happen and they don't have thousands more to risk trying to get home. Yet several governments are doing Nothing to help their citizens. That's part of the problem.

SiemReapRoddy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:22 pmDid you not book with a Visa or Mastercard credit card?

They should be able to give you the money back if you did. Just complain to them and they'll get it back from airline.

Electric Earth wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:37 pm

SiemReapRoddy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:22 pmDid you not book with a Visa or Mastercard credit card?

They should be able to give you the money back if you did. Just complain to them and they'll get it back from airline.

Well I didn't book shit. I'm sticking it out in Cambodia for now. But many have, and credit card companies will only go so far. It's not like they'll just give you back any money you ask for.

SiemReapRoddy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:46 pm

Electric Earth wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:37 pm

SiemReapRoddy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:22 pmDid you not book with a Visa or Mastercard credit card?

They should be able to give you the money back if you did. Just complain to them and they'll get it back from airline.

Well I didn't book shit. I'm sticking it out in Cambodia for now. But many have, and credit card companies will only go so far. It's not like they'll just give you back any money you ask for.

I don't know about any other countries* but if you complained to the Financial Ombudsman because Visa wouldn't give you a refund after airline cancelled your flight you would get your money back or they would be punished.

*UK