Americans: A Superlative People

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Re: Americans: A Superlative People

Post by The Add Jay » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:57 am

I love this normalization of weed smoking. I smoked my fair share...yes I got busted twice for it....yes I enjoyed it but I will say making it okay to smoke is such a bad fucking idea. The only reason why people have turned to drugs is because if you sip 1 beer and drive you get thrown in jail lose your job lose your car lose about 10k or more...its prohibition all over again.

9/10 of pot smokers from high school I knew all went on to do harder drugs.
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Re: Americans: A Superlative People

Post by dagenham » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:47 pm

flying chicken wrote:Ever since one of my friends told me that the rampant of drug usage is America is run by one their own government agencies. I thought he was fucking with me so I did a lot of reading afterward. Well the real drug lords are not the Colombians or Mexicans; the sources pointed to the CIA.
It's obvious and has been proven over and over again that the CIA is responsible for everything that goes on worldwide all the time.

Everything: Drugs. The Middle East. 9/11. Princess Diana. North Korea Missiles. Jacko. Hemorrhoids. African Poverty. Khmer rouge. et al....
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Re: Americans: A Superlative People

Post by LTO » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:53 pm

The Add Jay wrote:...9/10 of pot smokers from high school I knew all went on to do harder drugs.
interesting. Pretty much everybody I knew in high school that smoked pot did not move on to harder drugs (though some experimented with other sorts of drugs in high school) and most became fairly normal family sorts of people. Some even still smoke pot.
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Re: Americans: A Superlative People

Post by dagenham » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:56 pm

LTO wrote:
The Add Jay wrote:...9/10 of pot smokers from high school I knew all went on to do harder drugs.
interesting. Pretty much everybody I knew in high school that smoked pot did not move on to harder drugs (though some experimented with other sorts of drugs in high school) and most became fairly normal family sorts of people. Some even still smoke pot.
Excellent point. Smoking some pot in high school means almost nothing later on. I think becoming a Mormon is much more dangerous.
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Re: Americans: A Superlative People

Post by StroppyChops » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:39 pm

The Add Jay wrote:... if you sip 1 beer and drive you get thrown in jail lose your job lose your car lose about 10k or more...
Wow, that seems harsh. After 1 beer?
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Re: Americans: A Superlative People

Post by dagenham » Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:04 pm

StroppyChops wrote:
The Add Jay wrote:... if you sip 1 beer and drive you get thrown in jail lose your job lose your car lose about 10k or more...
Wow, that seems harsh. After 1 beer?
An exaggeration, but close. In the States, first offence at drunk driving results in $2-3000. fine and paying for traffic school. Plus your insurance skyrockets at least double or triple from before and it's likely you'll spend a night in the clinker. Within a 7 year period further offences ratchet up accordingly with 4th conviction resulting in 2 years in prison.

Interestingly it has only a slight effect on drunk driving casualties because hard core drunks will drive...no matter what. It does dissuade many of those in the "middle ground" but, unfortunately, they aren't the demographic causing the worst accidents, fatalities, etc.

Drunk drivers kill a lot of innocent people. Fact. No penalty is too harsh for those irresponsible addicts who do so. True libertarians and many people who have chosen poor 3rd world countries to live in absolutely love that they can drive drunk. And do. It's a major attraction to get away from the whining nanny-state "Man" who wants them not to drive drunk. Whatever.

This problem can never be "solved" in any way.
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Re: Americans: A Superlative People

Post by ExPenhMan » Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:29 pm

LTO wrote:
The Add Jay wrote:...9/10 of pot smokers from high school I knew all went on to do harder drugs.
interesting. Pretty much everybody I knew in high school that smoked pot did not move on to harder drugs (though some experimented with other sorts of drugs in high school) and most became fairly normal family sorts of people. Some even still smoke pot.
That's my experience too, LTO, with friends and myself. I don't do it anymore (3 decades?) or anything else.
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Re: Americans: A Superlative People

Post by OrangeDragon » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:16 pm

look at deng preaching... you just hit his hot button and now he'll project his concepts of morality on all of us for pages and pages while damning any religion that dares to do so.
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LTO wrote:
The Add Jay wrote:...9/10 of pot smokers from high school I knew all went on to do harder drugs.
interesting. Pretty much everybody I knew in high school that smoked pot did not move on to harder drugs (though some experimented with other sorts of drugs in high school) and most became fairly normal family sorts of people. Some even still smoke pot.
That's my experience too, LTO, with friends and myself. I don't do it anymore (3 decades?) or anything else.
I know people on both sides, presuming by "harder drugs" we include party drugs like ecstasy/lsd/mushrooms/etc and not limit it to the massively hard stuff like crack/heroin/etc. And even in the ones that have done the harder stuff, I know a number of them who only tried it a time or two and never went back to it but just stuck with pot or even eventually gave that up.
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Re: Americans: A Superlative People

Post by potty » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:40 pm

what people take today out of the pharmacy (e.g. the ritalins or pseudo-diseases like forms of polyneuropathy, anti-depressants) is much more mind- and mood-changing/psychedelic/etc than any joint you could roll...

and interestingly - at least for my observation - its only the sort who had never touched a joint in school.

mommy wouldnt have approved, you know.
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Re: Americans: A Superlative People

Post by OrangeDragon » Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:30 pm

i know lots of pot smokers on psychiatric meds... likely a pretty high amount in reality as they were/are self medicating for their emotional issues.
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