Moved to Barnyard thread

Also moved to the barnyard.

Very interesting. Although, you are right, any chance you can move our last two posts to the barnyard, seems the correct place. Or should I just cut n paste. I am, however very interested in this area

OrangeDragon wrote:If you give up on the "ooohhh, poor us" routine, you'll see there are a LOT of people pulling themselves up instead of sitting around having pity parties about how "the man" is holding them down. sure, some screwed up shit happens now and then, but it's not the norm as you make it out to be. And if the Khmer's have seen it long ago, then why isn't it being done on any kind of scale? A few people here and there... but no one really ramping it up into factory farming style production, which is where the money is at, and where there's still significant room for people to get in and make some serious money.

I am not pretending that the Khmers are poor, the reality is, they are poor. And trust me, a lot of Khmers are trying to pull themselves out of poverty (but sadly, on the expense of others). I just dont want this cycle to continuously to go around. Did I mention of depleting their own natural resources or pimping the youths? Those are the real issues you need to understand in this fragile country.

OrangeDragon wrote:And there are 2 things wrong with how Cambodians grow beef, and your crying about land owners not letting them trespass is one of them. Stop grazing them on other people's land, and stop exercising them so damn much. Pen them up, give them a LITTLE graze/exercise, and feed them out the rest of the way on cut silage (NOT rice grass... which is nutritionally worthless) and grain. You'll get bigger animals with more tender and flavorful meat that people actually want to buy... and you won't have to cry about big bad landowners not letting you destroy the vegetation on their land with overgrazinghttp://www.cambodiaexpatsonline.com/ucp.php?mo ... 7297ae4b23 (which is how Khmer tend to graze their cattle as well).

My initial reaction was to the comment above, let the Dragon do the walk. But I dont think you understand the real up situation in Cambodia. In my prior real example, I said the rich land owner owned a lot of prime areas on the national highways. There is not much the poor can do about it apart from being pushed and pushed away from town giving way to the rich locals and foreigners. In consequence, the natives in Kampong Saom find it is too expensive to live, some returned because they have a piece of land opening a mom n pop stores left by the deceased grandparents; while many others escaped to PP and SR as motordop; and most dont even want to go back to their own hometown, unless they would earn substantial amount of money to save face.

OrangeDragon wrote:As for the real estate... did you not read that I said that I think ship has already sailed and is actually about to sink? for someone western educated and who writes translations your reading comprehension seems to be lacking. Re-read the last sentence and google what a "pipe dream" is. when calling someone a dumbshit, you should probably make sure you understand what they're saying... so you don't sound like a dumbshit.

I read what you wrote; but I refused to hear your understanding of the real Cambodia's situation. I see this many time on the internet, when an OP used some sort of random word they asked readers to 'google' it. To me that is just lame!' Ok I tried to find a better synonym for the word dumbshit, but there wasnt any better substitution in this case.

Public apology: Orangedragon, I didnt mean to call you a dumbshit; I was in a seethe of rage during my moment of writing.

flying chicken wrote:Public apology: Orangedragon, I didnt mean to call you a dumbshit; I was in a seethe of rage during my moment of writing.

Sir_Quality_U_Feel wrote:When I moved from Michigan to Phoenix, Arizona, the amount of fat people decreased dramatically. Now, to be somewhat fair, for lack of a better word, Michigan is cold as fuck 4 months out of the year. If you can't afford a gym membership, you cannot really get exercise. Where as Phoenix, Arizona is always warm and always sunny. People are also more health conscious in the bigger cities.

Looks more closely related to class than location to me, but that's just a cursory observation at this point.

EdinWigan wrote:Very interesting. Although, you are right, any chance you can move our last two posts to the barnyard, seems the correct place. Or should I just cut n paste. I am, however very interested in this area

I'll just make a new thread on the subject over there and elaborate a little more on the various crops, etc.

FC... you're stuck in this "we can't" loop, while people "are". A great example of this is people in America (back on subject slightly) crying about education being too expensive for those who are poor to be able the get unpoor... while at the same time poor people are using the grants available to put themselves through community colleges essentially free and bettering their lives. As long as you keep thinking "can't" you most certainly "won't"... even though others who think they "can", really "are". The growing middle class isn't some fantasy, and it's not just a product of rich people helping rich people...

Dragon, pulueez. During my college years I disagreed with one of my professors teaching with his ; I was were to nod being yes yes yes like the Kiwis boys he wouldnt fail me on that paper.

And just like most Western countries, they make it hard for Asians to immigrate. I dont blame the government for that as Asians has a habit of abusing the system.

OrangeDragon wrote: FC... you're stuck in this "we can't" loop, while people "are". A great example of this is people in America (back on subject slightly) crying about education being too expensive for those who are poor to be able the get unpoor... while at the same time poor people are using the grants available to put themselves through community colleges essentially free and bettering their lives. As long as you keep thinking "can't" you most certainly "won't"... even though others who think they "can", really "are". The growing middle class isn't some fantasy, and it's not just a product of rich people helping rich people...

Hahaha, sorry cant help it. I know you are trying to be a real American, but deprived of of the essential needs. A great example? Well I partially agreed with you on that.