Alcohol laws will save Cambodian youth ?

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Re: Alcohol laws will save Cambodian youth ?

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No, accidents are caused by foreigners, if they were not here they would not happen.

everyone knows that.
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bolueeleh wrote:it does not says how many of these 2 wheelers died becoz of weaving in n out of traffic or turning without checking blindspot or dashing across the road or going in the opposite direction or riding in the blindspot of another vehicle.
Yes it does - the majority of deaths are caused by speeding, reckless driving and not wearing a helmet. These are also being addressed, but the thread is about "alcohol laws will save Cambodian youth" so I just addressed this aspect, reduction of fatalities by 14% would be quite significant.
Controlling alcohol consumption and enforcing helmet wearing are relatively easy interventions. Dealing with speeding has started but has still a long way to go. The problem of tackling reckless driving, when the majority of moto drivers don't know how to drive responsibly or even don't need licenses will require a major effort involving changing the mindset of the whole driving population. Good luck with that one :thumb:

*Note from the 2015 figures - Speeding caused 41 per cent of this year’s accidents, 12 per cent were caused by drunken driving and 13 per cent were the result of illegal driving manoeuvres, the data show.
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SinnSisamouth wrote:I bet 92% of all crashes were because of motorbike riders regardless if they are pissed
From the 2009 figures
The Annual Report 2009 of the Cambodia Road Crash and Victim Information System (RCVIS) shows that the number of traffic fatalities in Cambodia has almost doubled in the last five years. In 2009 an estimated 1717 people were killed and 7000 severely injured. At the same time the number of registered motorized
vehicles has increased from 575,000 to 1,392,000 (142%). According to the police registration, speed was the leading cause of 52 % of the fatalities while
another 17% were caused by drink driving. Around 80 % of the fatalities were motorbike riders (1218), ¾ of them suffering from head injuries. Surveys of helmet wearing in 2009 showed wearing rates of 65-85% among drivers and around 10 % among passengers (Annual Report,2009). http://www.roadsafetyforall.org/RSFA2/L ... 01_pdf.pdf
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yes but it does not say they caused it just that they came off worse.

85% wearing helmets? Lol

and it is riding not driving.
cars,trucks,buses, harleys are driven bycicles,scooters and motorbikes are ridden
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juansweetpotato wrote:along with forcing them to lower their prices so that the poor don't have to resort to dogey rice wine
Cheaper than it already is? How?
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So this means I can no longer send the kids to the shop for beer? Pretty inconvenient. Until they manage to rustle up some sort of trading standards department I don't see how this rule will be policed. 21 is a stupid drinking age, anyhow. People with jobs, wives and kids can't drink?
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cptrelentless wrote:So this means I can no longer send the kids to the shop for beer? Pretty inconvenient. Until they manage to rustle up some sort of trading standards department I don't see how this rule will be policed. 21 is a stupid drinking age, anyhow. People with jobs, wives and kids can't drink?
Just like the US: old enough to die in some shit-hole but not old enough to drink a beer :facepalm: :facepalm:
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SinnSisamouth wrote:yes but it does not say they caused it just that they came off worse.

85% wearing helmets? Lol

and it is riding not driving.
cars,trucks,buses, harleys are driven bycicles,scooters and motorbikes are ridden
Driving is often used as a general term when referring to those in control of a vehicle whether a motorcycle or other type of vehicle when an accident occurs, eg "the majority of deaths are caused by speeding, reckless driving and not wearing a helmet" or "65-85% among drivers and around 10 % among passengers (Annual Report,2009)".

Incidentally how would you distinguish between the riders that are actually driving the machine and those riders that are passengers? Would you say 65-85% among riders and 10% among their respective passengers? If you have issue with the wording of the report I suggest you contact the authors Paul Wesemann & Hans Godthelp of the Foundation Road safety for all, in the Netherlands. I am sure they would welcome your criticism.

As a matter of interest why would you "ride"a motorcycle yet "drive" a Harley which is also a motorcycle?

I would also be interested in your study of % of riders wearing helmets and indicate the fault in the study mentioned. As you will be aware studies done during the day will report higher % than those at night. With the numerous road blocks in place at night now this may provide better data on helmet wearing and improve compliance
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i really hope I dont ever meet you at a party.
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Kuroneko wrote:
bolueeleh wrote:it does not says how many of these 2 wheelers died becoz of weaving in n out of traffic or turning without checking blindspot or dashing across the road or going in the opposite direction or riding in the blindspot of another vehicle.
Yes it does - the majority of deaths are caused by speeding, reckless driving and not wearing a helmet.
i meant most of the deaths are caused by the 2 wheelers disregard for their lives and others and totally no respect for traffic laws or common sense
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