Postcards for Sale - help support a local NGO

Jerry Atrick · Post by **Jerry Atrick** » Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:59 am

Postcard_Seller wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:40 am
Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:37 am
Postcard_Seller wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:22 am The NGO is well established and registered in Cambodia for over 25 years. We have a decent online presence (our website is my first hit when I Google ‘care for Cambodia’), mature social media (FB and Instagram).
If you are genuinely interested then it isn’t hard to find out more about us. I think all the information you requested is publicly available online.
Yeah, I did read the website but obviously you guys write that.
But then why ask me? I’m writing these responses too!

Considering 26 years in operation, as you say, I found it curious that there are no ratings or reviews on Google or on fb

26 years is a long time. One might reasonably think that one or two grateful families might leave you guys a review

Similarly on the website you guys advertise poverty tourism trips so that visitors "can see the difference our work makes" once again, over a timeline longer than a quarter century I am surprised at No reviews at all

Ah, so you wrote the website too? Again, how would I divine this info? For all I know you could be an overly zealous volunteer

Postcard_Seller · Post by **Postcard_Seller** » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:14 am

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:59 am
Postcard_Seller wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:40 am
Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:37 am
Postcard_Seller wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:22 am The NGO is well established and registered in Cambodia for over 25 years. We have a decent online presence (our website is my first hit when I Google ‘care for Cambodia’), mature social media (FB and Instagram).
If you are genuinely interested then it isn’t hard to find out more about us. I think all the information you requested is publicly available online.
Yeah, I did read the website but obviously you guys write that.
But then why ask me? I’m writing these responses too!

Considering 26 years in operation, as you say, I found it curious that there are no ratings or reviews on Google or on fb

26 years is a long time. One might reasonably think that one or two grateful families might leave you guys a review

Similarly on the website you guys advertise poverty tourism trips so that visitors "can see the difference our work makes" once again, over a timeline longer than a quarter century I am surprised at No reviews at all

Ah, so you wrote the website too? Again, how would I divine this info? For all I know you could be an overly zealous volunteer

Cynics will assume cynical things.

We have plenty of individuals and families who have benefitted. But maybe unsurprisingly they aren’t that focussed on completing online reviews. It’s not actually something we have asked them to do - and how many Cambodians, especially rural Cambodians know the internet outside their Facebook feed?

We often share testimonies of lives impacted but it is a tricky balance to do this without taking advantage of the aid recipient. We try to give dignity to our clients and not plaster their names and photos online.

Poverty tourism - we are well aware of this issue. Things have changed a lot in the past 20 years, what we do now is different to what we did 20 years and there is a line to tread between showing our work and falling into ‘poverty tourism’ I believe we are on the right side of that line - other may disagree but we are always open to listening to the debate and making changes.
In reality an NGO needs donors, donors often need to see what they are giving to and the benefits it brings and we need to meet that need without taking advantage of those in need.

Jerry Atrick · Post by **Jerry Atrick** » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:21 am

Postcard_Seller wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:14 am
Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:59 am
Postcard_Seller wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:40 am
Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:37 am
Postcard_Seller wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:22 am The NGO is well established and registered in Cambodia for over 25 years. We have a decent online presence (our website is my first hit when I Google ‘care for Cambodia’), mature social media (FB and Instagram).
If you are genuinely interested then it isn’t hard to find out more about us. I think all the information you requested is publicly available online.
Yeah, I did read the website but obviously you guys write that.
But then why ask me? I’m writing these responses too!

Considering 26 years in operation, as you say, I found it curious that there are no ratings or reviews on Google or on fb

26 years is a long time. One might reasonably think that one or two grateful families might leave you guys a review

Similarly on the website you guys advertise poverty tourism trips so that visitors "can see the difference our work makes" once again, over a timeline longer than a quarter century I am surprised at No reviews at all

Ah, so you wrote the website too? Again, how would I divine this info? For all I know you could be an overly zealous volunteer
Cynics will assume cynical things.

We have plenty of individuals and families who have benefitted. But maybe unsurprisingly they aren’t that focussed on completing online reviews. It’s not actually something we have asked them to do - and how many Cambodians, especially rural Cambodians know the internet outside their Facebook feed?

We often share testimonies of lives impacted but it is a tricky balance to do this without taking advantage of the aid recipient. We try to give dignity to our clients and not plaster their names and photos online.

Poverty tourism - we are well aware of this issue. Things have changed a lot in the past 20 years, what we do now is different to what we did 20 years and there is a line to tread between showing our work and falling into ‘poverty tourism’ I believe we are on the right side of that line - other may disagree but we are always open to listening to the debate and making changes.
In reality an NGO needs donors, donors often need to see what they are giving to and the benefits it brings and we need to meet that need without taking advantage of those in need.

Pretty good answer, in fairness

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:34 am

.....Similarly on the website you guys advertise poverty tourism trips so that visitors "can see the difference our work makes" "

in thiss day and age this is a BIG NO!!!

website look nice, https://careforcambodia.org.kh/
are you; Jonny

as far as postcards go. "Wild Cambodia press"( owned by Douglass) does well selling Post cards in Cambodia, not as well as pre covid but....

Postcard_Seller · Post by **Postcard_Seller** » Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:59 am

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:34 am .....Similarly on the website you guys advertise poverty tourism trips so that visitors "can see the difference our work makes" "

in thiss day and age this is a BIG NO!!!

website look nice, https://careforcambodia.org.kh/
are you; Jonny

as far as postcards go. "Wild Cambodia press"( owned by Douglass) does well selling Post cards in Cambodia, not as well as pre covid but....

I am Jonny, yes.
The trips are not poverty tourism - though I understand your concerns. We are very protective of the communities in which we work. We focus on hope and transformation rather than stories of pity.
We do need to communicate a bit of the ‘before’ situation though and this is done as sensitively and non-touristy as possible.

Doc67 · Post by **Doc67** » Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:27 am

Postcard_Seller wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:59 am
phuketrichard wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:34 am .....Similarly on the website you guys advertise poverty tourism trips so that visitors "can see the difference our work makes" "

in thiss day and age this is a BIG NO!!!

website look nice, https://careforcambodia.org.kh/
are you; Jonny

as far as postcards go. "Wild Cambodia press"( owned by Douglass) does well selling Post cards in Cambodia, not as well as pre covid but....
I am Jonny, yes.
The trips are not poverty tourism - though I understand your concerns. We are very protective of the communities in which we work. We focus on hope and transformation rather than stories of pity.
We do need to communicate a bit of the ‘before’ situation though and this is done as sensitively and non-touristy as possible.

I hope you sell some postcard after this interrogation.

Postcard_Seller · Post by **Postcard_Seller** » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:36 am

Doc67 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:27 am
Postcard_Seller wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:59 am
phuketrichard wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:34 am .....Similarly on the website you guys advertise poverty tourism trips so that visitors "can see the difference our work makes" "

in thiss day and age this is a BIG NO!!!

website look nice, https://careforcambodia.org.kh/
are you; Jonny

as far as postcards go. "Wild Cambodia press"( owned by Douglass) does well selling Post cards in Cambodia, not as well as pre covid but....
I am Jonny, yes.
The trips are not poverty tourism - though I understand your concerns. We are very protective of the communities in which we work. We focus on hope and transformation rather than stories of pity.
We do need to communicate a bit of the ‘before’ situation though and this is done as sensitively and non-touristy as possible.
I hope you sell some postcard after this interrogation.

Lol, not even one!

Doc67 · Post by **Doc67** » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:41 pm

Postcard_Seller wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:36 am
Doc67 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:27 am
Postcard_Seller wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:59 am
phuketrichard wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:34 am .....Similarly on the website you guys advertise poverty tourism trips so that visitors "can see the difference our work makes" "

in thiss day and age this is a BIG NO!!!

website look nice, https://careforcambodia.org.kh/
are you; Jonny

as far as postcards go. "Wild Cambodia press"( owned by Douglass) does well selling Post cards in Cambodia, not as well as pre covid but....
I am Jonny, yes.
The trips are not poverty tourism - though I understand your concerns. We are very protective of the communities in which we work. We focus on hope and transformation rather than stories of pity.
We do need to communicate a bit of the ‘before’ situation though and this is done as sensitively and non-touristy as possible.
I hope you sell some postcard after this interrogation.
Lol, not even one!

Why not make phone covers instead of postcards? Everyone uses them and if they had a nice logo people could get their 'I'm a donor' kudos for months for a one-off price. Just a thought....

Postcards are so 1970's (like me, and I suspect you too)

Postcard_Seller · Post by **Postcard_Seller** » Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:21 am

Doc67 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:41 pm
Postcard_Seller wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:36 am
Doc67 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:27 am
Postcard_Seller wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:59 am
phuketrichard wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:34 am .....Similarly on the website you guys advertise poverty tourism trips so that visitors "can see the difference our work makes" "

in thiss day and age this is a BIG NO!!!

website look nice, https://careforcambodia.org.kh/
are you; Jonny

as far as postcards go. "Wild Cambodia press"( owned by Douglass) does well selling Post cards in Cambodia, not as well as pre covid but....
I am Jonny, yes.
The trips are not poverty tourism - though I understand your concerns. We are very protective of the communities in which we work. We focus on hope and transformation rather than stories of pity.
We do need to communicate a bit of the ‘before’ situation though and this is done as sensitively and non-touristy as possible.
I hope you sell some postcard after this interrogation.
Lol, not even one!
Why not make phone covers instead of postcards? Everyone uses them and if they had a nice logo people could get their 'I'm a donor' kudos for months for a one-off price. Just a thought....

Postcards are so 1970's (like me, and I suspect you too)

I think phone covers would be too difficult. There are too many brands/models of phones out there with differing dimensions. Also good cases with MagSafe or good protection are too expensive to make.
We have sold a decent amount elsewhere and have covered costs, anything sold now is profit.

They are being bought and used not so much as postcards but as ‘thank you’ or ‘thinking of you’ cards. A few people also bought them to display.

Also, grandad, my birthdate just about scraped into the 70’s

DeparRudeAnts · Post by **DeparRudeAnts** » Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:00 pm

They're good designs, I think they would sell better as A3 sized posters with a bit of a blurb and contact details at the bottom. Get them up in a few trendy bars and I think you'd make a few more sales.

Selling postcards to expats in a country with no postman is going to be a tough one. Especially when tourists are thin on the ground

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