Second hand scooter: main criteria?

AndyKK · Post by **AndyKK** » Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:09 pm

Soriya wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:09 pm
AndyKK wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:08 pm
Soriya wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:51 pm
AndyKK wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:49 pm
Soriya wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:11 pm Just seen this topic, i tried everywhere i could think off for 3rd party insurance and theft and had no luck.
Im near on the same size described by the op, i drive a 2018 airblade and it suits me fine sizewise.
Regards ownership i believe until the end ofseptember you can go change a registration card into your name, there was an article in khmer times about it, i havent done so yet, but will look into it soon.
I think it means a Khmer can take this option, due to a foreigner by the law can't register a second hand motorcycle in their name.
A guy i know, european had a bike in a girls name, he was told by honda it was possible as long as the owner was contactable.
I went with him to the sangkat in sensok,where he was told to go by honda, with some paperwork they gave him, they wanted 500 bucks so he refused
Soriya look at the Cambodian motorcycle groups on facebook, I have read on there that it is possible to get insurance in the city, and they pay out too. Apologises for not finding the link.
Will do, thxs, i still havent got insurance but want it, having had a bike stolen previously

Did you have a chance to look into the insurance? Apparently Forte will insure the foreigner if you have 6 months left on your visa, doesn't matter that your name is not on the moto registration.

Soriya · Post by **Soriya** » Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:01 pm

AndyKK wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:09 pm
Soriya wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:09 pm
AndyKK wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:08 pm
Soriya wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:51 pm
AndyKK wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:49 pm
I think it means a Khmer can take this option, due to a foreigner by the law can't register a second hand motorcycle in their name.
A guy i know, european had a bike in a girls name, he was told by honda it was possible as long as the owner was contactable.
I went with him to the sangkat in sensok,where he was told to go by honda, with some paperwork they gave him, they wanted 500 bucks so he refused
Soriya look at the Cambodian motorcycle groups on facebook, I have read on there that it is possible to get insurance in the city, and they pay out too. Apologises for not finding the link.
Will do, thxs, i still havent got insurance but want it, having had a bike stolen previously
Did you have a chance to look into the insurance? Apparently Forte will insure the foreigner if you have 6 months left on your visa, doesn't matter that your name is not on the moto registration.

Not yet but thxs for the update.

explorer · Post by **explorer** » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:00 pm

I ride a bicycle, and most likely will never buy a motorbike. I am always legal, even without mirrors and a helmet.

In Cambodia, if they say an accident is your fault, you have to pay compensation to the other party. If you hit an expensive car, it could be a lot of money. With the madness on the roads, you could also kill someone. In many situations, they say it is the fault of the foreigner even if it is not, because foreigners have more money.

I am very unlikely to cause an accident which causes injury to another person, because on a bicycle I don't go as fast as a motorbike, so I can normally stop. If on the extremely rare possibility I did hit someone, a bicycle is much lighter than a motorbike, and is much less likely to cause serious injury. Of course, I could be hit, and injured by someone else. But it is less likely, because a lot of accidents are because of high speed.

It also helps me keep fit.

explorer · Post by **explorer** » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:04 pm

If I bought a motorbike, I would probably get a cheaper one. I would get air cooled (not liquid cooled), with gears, as they are less complicated, and less can go wrong with them. I would most likely get 125 cc. The smaller motors are slow up hill.

whatwat · Post by **whatwat** » Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:27 pm

LC 125cc are non existent in Cambodia.

explorer · Post by **explorer** » Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:03 pm

Another thing to consider when buying a motor bike, is whether Cambodian friends and family are likely to ride it. If you get a smaller bike, they can ride it. If you get a larger trail bike, it would not be smart for less experienced riders to ride it. Some may think it is a good idea to share it with Cambodian friends and family. Others may think it is better to have a bike they can't ride. I would probably get a bike they can ride, and share it with responsible Cambodians.

It also depends on the deal you get. If a type of motor bike I did not plan to buy, was for sale at a good price, I may buy it.

Ced · Post by **Ced** » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:19 am

Quick update on my situation:
- for the record I finally bought a PCX 125 at Bayon Moto: second hand from Japan with tax papers, they put a plate and registered it under my name ($100 to get the ownership card). They have plenty of bikes and the owner speaks English. 3 month warranty. They changed oil, brake liquid, seat etc. as we agreed. Their bikes are mainly imported from Japan: I assumed that Japanese users pay more attention to maintenance than Cambodian people so would be better to get an imported one. I'm happy with PCX and it meets all my needs.
- I confirm we can get insurance as foreigners: Infinity can insure with a basic formula (around $40 per year: third party damages) or a more complete option ($130 per year for third party + own damages + theft) but of course premium will depend on the value of the bike. I went to Forte and they said they could not insure motorbikes (too many thefts as per the lady I saw) although they insure tuktuk vehicles...

AndyKK · Post by **AndyKK** » Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:58 pm

Ced wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:19 am Quick update on my situation:
- for the record I finally bought a PCX 125 at Bayon Moto: second hand from Japan with tax papers, they put a plate and registered it under my name ($100 to get the ownership card). They have plenty of bikes and the owner speaks English. 3 month warranty. They changed oil, brake liquid, seat etc. as we agreed. Their bikes are mainly imported from Japan: I assumed that Japanese users pay more attention to maintenance than Cambodian people so would be better to get an imported one. I'm happy with PCX and it meets all my needs.
- I confirm we can get insurance as foreigners: Infinity can insure with a basic formula (around $40 per year: third party damages) or a more complete option ($130 per year for third party + own damages + theft) but of course premium will depend on the value of the bike. I went to Forte and they said they could not insure motorbikes (too many thefts as per the lady I saw) although they insure tuktuk vehicles...

I managed to get insurance today at Infinity. The Honda CB400SS because it is over the 125cc, owner needs to show Cambodian driving licence, also his/her passport. Third party liability, with a liability limit $10,000 one-year policy is $77. Fully Comprehensive with same liability $10,000 one-year policy is $188.
Unfortunately, they weren't able to insure my Honda MSX 125cc. I also never understood the answer to why not.

SlowJoe · Post by **SlowJoe** » Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:47 am

I'm guessing the MSX is too easily parted out and sold off as spares because so many are around? There's also a lot of Chinese fakes too so that might be why.

Post by **Clutch Cargo** » Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:31 pm

AndyKK wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:58 pm I managed to get insurance today at Infinity. The Honda CB400SS because it is over the 125cc, owner needs to show Cambodian driving licence, also his/her passport. Third party liability, with a liability limit $10,000 one-year policy is $77. Fully Comprehensive with same liability $10,000 one-year policy is $188.

Is there a basic excess aka deductible?

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