Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:16 am

explorer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:04 am

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:48 am Ne'k / អ្នក (m/f) - "Madam, Sir" - formal appellation

អ្នក translates best as you or person. It does not show any respect, and should only be used for people younger than yourself.

If you got that from a dictionary, the dictionary got it wrong.

hahaha the above was written by an educated Khmer person, but your understanding of Khmer is obviously leagues above theirs lol

Username Taken wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:04 pm

timmydownawell wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:02 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:54 pm

timmydownawell wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:40 pm Quick one from me:

Is it ok to call a random older lady 'ming' (aunt) at the market etc, as in "or kun, ming" ?

it might be abit different for me as im only 31 and any lady around my mothers age id respectfully call 'Ming'
if the lady is around your parents age i shouldnt see it being any sort of problem

Oh good, because I've been doing it anyway, but only for the old ones cheers

I'd suggest you call her Om. It's more respectful if she is an older aunt.

They might take exception to that if they knew my dad died aged 92 last year. I'll stick to the younger version.

a-yi - aunt in Mandarin (maternal, I believe, but would not offend the paternal aunt either, to my experience), very common form of friendly address of women in China, also outside family, but not to officials, of course.

I don't know Cantonese but linguists say its tones are related to Thai. Listening to the pronounciation, Cantonese and Mandarin sound similar for this word. (But Mandarin speaking Chinese do not understand Cantonese at all until after at least a couple of months exposure.)

https://forvo.com/word/阿姨/

I stay with "bong". A damn good word The noodle ladies seem to find it very adequate and it gives me good service in the market. I just look around a little and the crouch chmae will be served

explorer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:07 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:16 am

explorer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:04 am

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:48 am Ne'k / អ្នក (m/f) - "Madam, Sir" - formal appellation

អ្នក translates best as you or person. It does not show any respect, and should only be used for people younger than yourself.

If you got that from a dictionary, the dictionary got it wrong.

hahaha the above was written by an educated Khmer person, but your understanding of Khmer is obviously leagues above theirs lol

អ្នក (neak) is hardly used in Khmer, only by beginners unable to master the enormous amount of ways to address someone. They will use it in any situation because it's polite enough not to upset someone in normal situations and not gender specific. I think your dictionary is aiming for that.

I used it for months before I got hold of the system to address persons and I was barely understood back then.

Chamboy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:43 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:47 pm

siliconlife wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:01 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:54 pm

timmydownawell wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:40 pm Quick one from me:

Is it ok to call a random older lady 'ming' (aunt) at the market etc, as in "or kun, ming" ?

it might be abit different for me as im only 31 and any lady around my mothers age id respectfully call 'Ming'
if the lady is around your parents age i shouldnt see it being any sort of problem

I call them "E" (pronounced "ee") to be more casual. I learned this in Battambang. Do you know of this word for 'ming'?

And yes, all of these terms are dependent on the age difference of the speakers.

i think ee i think is short for Yeay - Grandmother? and used to address an elderly woman, its not really a word i use though, unless im talking about my own grandparents, im always a bit cautious addressing older folk in case they take offense lol i limit myself to Pu, Ming, Om and Om Srey

Better check out "ee" again. In our neck of the woods it is the same as "ming.". Not used very often and probably Chinese in origin.

I think it's minj, not ming, so i doubt it's of Chinese origin.

I think it's minj, not ming, so i doubt it's of Chinese origin."

The word in question is "ee" not ming or minj. The latter rendition I have never heard nor would I have a clue how to pronounce it.
Almost sounds like a common dermatologi cal problem common to unkempt dogs.

Username Taken wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:03 pm

Chamboy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:43 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:47 pm

siliconlife wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:01 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:54 pm

it might be abit different for me as im only 31 and any lady around my mothers age id respectfully call 'Ming'
if the lady is around your parents age i shouldnt see it being any sort of problem

I call them "E" (pronounced "ee") to be more casual. I learned this in Battambang. Do you know of this word for 'ming'?

And yes, all of these terms are dependent on the age difference of the speakers.

i think ee i think is short for Yeay - Grandmother? and used to address an elderly woman, its not really a word i use though, unless im talking about my own grandparents, im always a bit cautious addressing older folk in case they take offense lol i limit myself to Pu, Ming, Om and Om Srey

Better check out "ee" again. In our neck of the woods it is the same as "ming.". Not used very often and probably Chinese in origin.

Yeah, agree with that. Ee is of Chinese origin and means much the same as ming.

yeah someone pointed that out, twas just a guess, one doth not knoweth nor speaketh the Chineseish

Kammekor wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:34 pm

explorer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:07 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:16 am

explorer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:04 am

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:48 am Ne'k / អ្នក (m/f) - "Madam, Sir" - formal appellation

អ្នក translates best as you or person. It does not show any respect, and should only be used for people younger than yourself.

If you got that from a dictionary, the dictionary got it wrong.

hahaha the above was written by an educated Khmer person, but your understanding of Khmer is obviously leagues above theirs lol

អ្នក (neak) is hardly used in Khmer, only by beginners unable to master the enormous amount of ways to address someone. They will use it in any situation because it's polite enough not to upset someone in normal situations and not gender specific. I think your dictionary is aiming for that.

I used it for months before I got hold of the system to address persons and I was barely understood back then.

yeah it can be used as politeness if not sure how to address someone so in order to not give offense, its far easier if you are not sure to just call someone neak than to address them incorrectly and them take offense and cause embarrassment for you both

kps wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:28 pm I stay with "bong". A damn good word The noodle ladies seem to find it very adequate and it gives me good service in the market. I just look around a little and the crouch chmae will be served

It depends on how old they are. If they are too old, it is not appropriate.

kps wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:43 pm At the noodle shop, how do you say "dine in/take away"?

In Khmer, the word for a take away food container is pro-op.

If you dont know if they have take away, you can say:

mian pro-op

which is: have take away food container?

If you want to take the food away, you can say:

du(c) pro-op

which is: put (in) take away container.