FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by giblet » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:04 am

flying chicken wrote:I discussed about this before during my early day on khmer440. I.e rean & hean (study), srok sre and sok se (countryside), mui roi and moi hoi (500) etc.
Tell us again for those of us that missed it. The first examples (rean, srok sre, mui roi) are Phnom Penh accents? I'm learning Khmer in Siem Reap with a teacher from Battambang after taking classes in Phnom Penh so my accent is going to be a mess.
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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by StroppyChops » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:06 am

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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by flying chicken » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:29 am

Tell us again for those of us that missed it. The first examples (rean, srok sre, mui roi) are Phnom Penh accents? [/quote]

Those examples are not Phnom Penh accent, the words are properly stressed; the ones next to it are.
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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by Joon » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:33 am

Flying Chicken means that the accent of Phnom Penhers is slightly lazy and swallowing up sounds.

So while the correct pronunciation is for instance "srok sre" with rolling R, Phnom Penhers would pronounce it "srok seh" or instead of saying "mouy poan/mouy khae", they'd say "ma poan/ma khae."

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I like this presenter:

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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by Bitte_Kein_Lexus » Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:48 am

Siem Riep?! You're joking right? Some areas of Siem Riep have a huge accent, on par with areas of Kompong Thom and Kompong Chnang (across the river)...
They sound like Swiss yodelers. Ka lerk dak-som-leng...
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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by Mr Curious » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:04 am

I'm thinking it might be easier for me to just learn French and hang with the old ppl :)
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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by flying chicken » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:27 pm

Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote:Siem Riep?! You're joking right? Some areas of Siem Riep have a huge accent, on par with areas of Kompong Thom and Kompong Chnang (across the river)...
They sound like Swiss yodelers. Ka lerk dak-som-leng...
Not sure if you know, but there are at least 8 different dialects in Siem Reap province. The accent from the locals living in the vicinity of Siem Reap is neutral.
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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by Bitte_Kein_Lexus » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:12 pm

There's no such thing as a "neutral" accent.
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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by flying chicken » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:38 pm

Ok maybe neutral is a poor word of choice, but it is not standardize either....PP is considered standardized. My point is, the words and syllables are stressed is close to the written words, albeit sometimes with a bit of accent.
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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by StroppyChops » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:47 pm

You've just argued a point opposite to the one you're trying to make, FC, but pray continue!
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