FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by giblet » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:47 pm

Username Taken wrote:In the real books, they don't include the 'joeung' consonants on the alphabet chart until later in the book at page 44.
I thought that was strange, too.
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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by StroppyChops » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:10 pm

Thanks UT, thanks Jacob.
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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by Jacobincambodia » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:13 pm

StroppyChops wrote:Thanks UT, thanks Jacob.
Sure - here is the official book #1 and the book thy use to teach at IFL for reading and writing.

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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by StroppyChops » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:52 pm

We have the first book, Jacob, apparently it's the second book we'll cover and our first is for kindergarten students. Must be pretty advanced kindergarteners.
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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by FreeSocrates! » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:02 am

My teacher is alright.

He basically asks me what words I want to use and teaches them to me. And we focus purely on speaking. Since day one he's encouraged me to use my own "Phonetic System" (ie Write the word down how I hear it). At different times I tried to learn different phonetic systems but realised it's much easier if I follow his advice.

I basically use him to practice pronunciation (what part of the mouth/body/tongue the world is coming from) and sentence building. I make more progress if I spend time at home doing memorization of words.

I'm not that interested in writing/reading Khmer.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think they have a very rich literary tradition, I think they are much more social, so it makes sense to learn the speaking part to me.
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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by FreeSocrates! » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:04 am

StroppyChops wrote: By cross compiling three different sources I get this:
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0Njtjb20vZC8xNC8wNi8zMC9vcmlnaW5hbC91cmU2eTdlaCYjNDY7anBn[/img]

This is the way my teacher teaches me the sounds.

He said it sounds the most musical (abcdefghijklmnop is a song after all!)...
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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by Jacobincambodia » Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:35 am

FreeSocrates! wrote:
StroppyChops wrote: By cross compiling three different sources I get this:
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0Njtjb20vZC8xNC8wNi8zMC9vcmlnaW5hbC91cmU2eTdlaCYjNDY7anBn[/img]

This is the way my teacher teaches me the sounds.

He said it sounds the most musical (abcdefghijklmnop is a song after all!)...
Looking at the transliteration, it doesn't appear accurate to me?
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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by Joon » Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:55 am

Jacob, it doesn't make sense to me either, but maybe it's what works for Stroppy?

We'd have to meet with him and listen to how he pronounces the letters. :)
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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by StroppyChops » Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:37 am

Jacobincambodia wrote:
FreeSocrates! wrote:
StroppyChops wrote: By cross compiling three different sources I get this:
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0Njtjb20vZC8xNC8wNi8zMC9vcmlnaW5hbC91cmU2eTdlaCYjNDY7anBn[/img]

This is the way my teacher teaches me the sounds.

He said it sounds the most musical (abcdefghijklmnop is a song after all!)...
Looking at the transliteration, it doesn't appear accurate to me?
Any specific letters, Jacob, or on general? There were a couple of translit systems available, I didn't put a whole lot of science into selecting this one as I use IPA
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Re: FFS - not even consensus on the alphabet?

Post by StroppyChops » Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:38 am

FreeSocrates! wrote:
StroppyChops wrote: By cross compiling three different sources I get this:
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0Njtjb20vZC8xNC8wNi8zMC9vcmlnaW5hbC91cmU2eTdlaCYjNDY7anBn[/img]

This is the way my teacher teaches me the sounds.

He said it sounds the most musical (abcdefghijklmnop is a song after all!)...
Your link is broken, FS.
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