Can you recommend a Khmer language tutor?

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Re: Can you recommend a Khmer language tutor?

Postby StroppyChops » Thu May 22, 2014 12:23 am

Yeah, but we're trying it sober.
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Re: Can you recommend a Khmer language tutor?

Postby FreeSocrates! » Sun May 25, 2014 5:21 am

I find it gets easier the longer you stick to it.

Words that I first learn, I don't realize for some time that I'm not pronouncing them 100% correctly. But it's because there are some sounds that are just not in the english language, so you need to be exposed to them and develop your ear for them before you can say and hear them correctly.

Once you get that sound though, it's transferable to a different word as well.

I usually make a list of words I know I have trouble with then repeat them to my tutor and he helps correct me.
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Re: Can you recommend a Khmer language tutor?

Postby vladimir » Sun May 25, 2014 10:57 am

StroppyChops wrote:First lesson last night, starting out with an hour a day, five days a week, at least four months. The tutor has us learning the alphabet, starting with consonants.
I really sympathise, but I would not do this.

Vocabulary and key phrases: market, transport, greetings, my family etc are what you need.

The other stuff should come later for adults.

I did a class at an NGO and the teacher didn't want to do the class, he got very technical, I suspect out of psite. Almost everyone dropped out.

Then we changed to a female tutor who only taught us vocab/phrases. Big improvement.
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Re: Can you recommend a Khmer language tutor?

Postby StroppyChops » Sun May 25, 2014 1:06 pm

Absolutely understand your point. We're going to have to mix it up with vocabulary because memorizing over sixty characters and their subscripts is proving pretty difficult.
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Re: Can you recommend a Khmer language tutor?

Postby Rama » Mon May 26, 2014 6:36 am

I agree with Vladimir. Vocabulary first. My reading is pretty good. Intermediate level I'd guess, about the level of a Cambodian 3rd/4th grader. But that's because the words I'm reading are words I know...I started learning speaking and listening 5 years or more before learning reading and writing.
Now I can just about 'read' a story in a newspaper but as the vocabulary being used is unfamiliar it doesn't make much sense and I'm making the wrong sounds.
Guess what I'm trying to get at is that if you know the word before/whilst you're reading.. You're anticipating it because it fits the style and story..you adjust your pronunciation to fit the reading.
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Re: Can you recommend a Khmer language tutor?

Postby General Mackevili » Mon May 26, 2014 10:11 am

Yeah, I would completely scrap the script for now.

Work on vocab/pronunciation for now.
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Re: Can you recommend a Khmer language tutor?

Postby StroppyChops » Mon May 26, 2014 12:14 pm

^ agree with all posts. There are some other social factors (friendships, creating a job for someone we know with their first baby on the way) in play that mean we'll keep doing what we're doing and supplement that with vocabulary learning. We'll try moving out tutors approach to words/sentences rather than letters and see how he adapts to that. The issue seems to be that he's learning English formally at a high intermediate level and his teacher is obviously using obsolete industrial era teaching methods, so he's emulating that. I'll keep you posted...
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Re: Can you recommend a Khmer language tutor?

Postby vladimir » Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:35 am

StroppyChops wrote:The issue seems to be that he's learning English formally at a high intermediate level and his teacher is obviously using obsolete industrial era teaching methods, so he's emulating that. I'll keep you posted...
Where? Maybe I should apply...I'm leaving my present job at the end of the month.
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Re: Can you recommend a Khmer language tutor?

Postby StroppyChops » Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:17 pm

In all honesty I don't know - I guess I should have shown interest and asked him by now.
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Re: Can you recommend a Khmer language tutor?

Postby walkjivefly » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:45 pm

StroppyChops, General Mack, can you PM me your tutors contact details please?

I had a guy last year for a couple of weeks who used the vocab with transliteration/Romanisation approach. I was doing ok but he got a better offer from someone else and dropped my lessons.

I learn by rote and have to write stuff down to really remember it. I don't know IPA and there are as many transliteration schemes as there are language books. Which makes using multiple books confusing. Confusion leads to annoyance and annoyed is not a good state of mind for learning. I'd like to try learning the script, know the characters and how to pronounce them, be able to write and read the words as I learn them. So a kiddies alphabet trainer and a tutor seem like a good starting point.

I realise as kids when we learnt our alphabet and to read and write we could already speak the language so understand Vladimir saying this is not the best approach. But I'd like to try it anyway.


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