What's in the balloons?

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Re: What's in the balloons?

Post by wackyjacky » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:27 pm

Great info. I had no clue all that shit was in it. I did my shared of whippets back in the day. I also did a bunch of balloons in Pattaya a couple months back. Something I never knew is that you need to inhale and blow it back into the balloon about 4 or 5 Xs to get truly f*cked up. Since it's oxygen deprivation, I wonder if this is what it feel like to drown.
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Re: What's in the balloons?

Post by OrangeDragon » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:10 am

wackyjacky wrote:Something I never knew is that you need to inhale and blow it back into the balloon about 4 or 5 Xs to get truly f*cked up. Since it's oxygen deprivation, I wonder if this is what it feel like to drown.
You shouldn't actually do that... that's bad for your brain and actually a different high. Instead just do more balloons. Or what I prefer to do is take one big breath from the balloon and hold it till i can't... then let it partially out and inhale some air and hold it again. Give the n20 time to absorb as well as mixing in a little oxygen for your brain... which is exactly what the dentist does and the best way to do it really. A nice buzz if you do it like that.

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Re: What's in the balloons?

Post by wackyjacky » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:21 am

I've got to respectfully disagree OD. I always did it your way in the past. A BG in Pattaya showed my the proper method & there was a big difference. I don't think one is going to cause brain damage in a minute or so. People get in trouble with the mask not with balloons.
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Re: What's in the balloons?

Post by frank lee bent » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:17 am

yep- the mask can be deadly
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Re: What's in the balloons?

Post by Kuroneko » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:06 pm

wackyjacky wrote:I've got to respectfully disagree OD. I always did it your way in the past. A BG in Pattaya showed my the proper method & there was a big difference. I don't think one is going to cause brain damage in a minute or so. People get in trouble with the mask not with balloons.
Irrespective of which method gives the "best high" for you personally, from a safety aspect I agree with OD. Rebreathing the gas is inducing hypoxia which is giving a different sort of high. In this state the blood becomes abnormally alkaline and this alkylosis causes reduced oxygen to the brain inducing various symptoms interpreted as euphoria. The combination of asthesia and hypoxia can prove fatal. So be careful.

Nitrous Oxide readily displaces air, causing asphyxiation. A person who is rendered unconscious by nitrous oxide is likely to stop breathing within a few seconds as a result of a depressed central nervous system--brain, brain stem, and spinal cord. Depression is caused by a combination of the effects of nitrous oxide and the lowered oxygen content that occurs as pure nitrous oxide displaces oxygen from the lungs with each succeeding inhalation of the gas; i.e., the person is asphyxiated.
http://www.cganet.com/n20guidelines.php

Tragedy can occur very quickly. Long-term exposure (several minutes) is not necessary before death occurs. Sudden, prolonged exposure to high levels of nitrous oxide, or a series of inhalations (without breathing clean air between inhalations) can result in death. The length of this action can be measured in seconds. Since the narcotic effect of nitrous oxide is very brief (several seconds) abusers tend to follow this repetitive action pattern. http://www.justsayn2o.com/nitrous.dangers.html


Oxygen Deprivation
"Occasionally, certain anesthetic agents become misused drugs. Nitrous oxide is an example. A gas of low anesthetic potency, it is incapable of inducing deep levels of anesthesia if an adequate oxygen concentration is maintained. Nitrous oxide induces a state of behavioral disinhibition, analgesia, and euphoria. One of the problems occasionally encountered when nitrous oxide is used for recreational purposes is that, unless the compound is administered with at least 20 percent oxygen, hypoxia (decreased oxygen content of the blood) can be induced. But in order to achieve high enough concentrations of nitrous oxide to get a good behavioral effect, concentrations of 50 percent or greater must be inhaled. If such concentrations are mixed with room air, inhaled oxygen concentrations drop to low levels and the hypoxia may result in irreversible brain damage. http://www.justsayn2o.com/nitrous.dangers.html

More on the adverse effects of nitrous oxide here http://www.general-anaesthesia.com/n2o.htm
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Re: What's in the balloons?

Post by StroppyChops » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:40 pm

^ nicely presented.
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Re: What's in the balloons?

Post by OrangeDragon » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:02 am

indeed, though i should point out that being rendered unconscious by the gas and "fishing out" can be very different even though they appear the same from an external perspective. sometimes you're just so high and internally absorbed in the experience you appear to have passed out, but haven't.
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Re: What's in the balloons?

Post by wackyjacky » Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:56 pm

OK, you've convinced me. I'll only re-breath 'em once from now on.
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Re: What's in the balloons?

Post by Garry.Crabtree » Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:11 pm

I think this whole ballon high thing has rather been blown away out of proportion.
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Re: What's in the balloons?

Post by wackyjacky » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:01 pm

You're right, In Pattaya we found it diverted us away from alcohol for awhile and we didn't feel like we were et by coyotes and shat off a cliff the next morning (like all the other mornings).
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