Not just hookers!?!?

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So many businesses have closed down, I doubt there are many "normal" jobs left, especially for women with little education or training.

I'm relived for them that you aren't interested, I am sure you'd only compound their problems.
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Ryan754326 wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:55 pm
rozzieoz wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:06 pm
What other choices?
As others here have said, her other choices would be to get a normal job and make normal money.
When the average bar girl has a newer phone than I do, they’re not doing it out of desperation anymore.
But so called "normal jobs" often do not pay enough to survive and many girls run two jobs to survive. One girl I knew for example was a very good hair dresser and ran a small salon with her friend in the market. The customers were quite poor and the money she made was insufficient for her needs so took a second job in a bar in the evenings to boost her earnings. She like many girls working in a bar had a child to support on her own as the husband had left. This condition is a common reason why girls end up in a bar. Added to which there is a possibility of securing a foreign boyfriend to support her and her offspring. Quite a number of foreigners are happy to take on a family whereas Khmer men are less likely to do so.

Another friend worked for her sister in a small garment manufacturing business, but their orders dried up and her sister could not afford to employ her. She therefore got a job in a bar for a while as nothing else was available. She has recently managed to get a job in a garment factory and quit the bar.

A long time ago I knew a girl working in Howies bar, she was saving up to put herself through nursing school. Years later I came across her purchasing some materials at a pharmacy near Central Market, I found out that she had successfully graduated as a nurse and was working at KSFH. Another Nurse I knew who came from quite a good family worked for a while as a cashier in a bar on 104 street for a while to help support her nurses studies.

The point is that girls lives are not static and they respond to changing circumstance to improve their life chances and this means not accepting remaining in a low social position and striving for something more. In all the time I have lived here I have come across many women with all sorts of characteristics but I have never come across one that was lazy.
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Chuck Borris wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:36 am
Tootsfriend wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:40 am [img][/img

]. Well my new girlfriend is no hooker or bargirl and I have a receipt to prove she's mine.
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Tootsfriend wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:40 am [img][/img

]. Well my new girlfriend is no hooker or bargirl and I have a receipt to prove she's mine.
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Inflatable girlfriends. That's another indication of male inadequacy.

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Ot Mean Loi wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:43 pm Inflatable girlfriends. That's another indication of male inadequacy.

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Kuroneko wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:54 am
But so called "normal jobs" often do not pay enough to survive and many girls run two jobs to survive. One girl I knew for example was a very good hair dresser and ran a small salon with her friend in the market. The customers were quite poor and the money she made was insufficient for her needs so took a second job in a bar in the evenings to boost her earnings. She like many girls working in a bar had a child to support on her own as the husband had left. This condition is a common reason why girls end up in a bar. Added to which there is a possibility of securing a foreign boyfriend to support her and her offspring. Quite a number of foreigners are happy to take on a family whereas Khmer men are less likely to do so.

Another friend worked for her sister in a small garment manufacturing business, but their orders dried up and her sister could not afford to employ her. She therefore got a job in a bar for a while as nothing else was available. She has recently managed to get a job in a garment factory and quit the bar.

A long time ago I knew a girl working in Howies bar, she was saving up to put herself through nursing school. Years later I came across her purchasing some materials at a pharmacy near Central Market, I found out that she had successfully graduated as a nurse and was working at KSFH. Another Nurse I knew who came from quite a good family worked for a while as a cashier in a bar on 104 street for a while to help support her nurses studies.

The point is that girls lives are not static and they respond to changing circumstance to improve their life chances and this means not accepting remaining in a low social position and striving for something more. In all the time I have lived here I have come across many women with all sorts of characteristics but I have never come across one that was lazy.
Nobody said life was easy for Cambodians. Making crappy wages is just the reality for almost everyone there, but in normal times, plenty of normal jobs appeared to be available.

As I said, men don’t even have the option to drink and sleep with foreigners for money, but all the sympathy goes to the bar girls who walk around with a phone in their pocket that’s worth 3 months of a construction workers’ salary.

I’ve known plenty of bar girls in my time, and if they really want to get out of the industry that bad, the first thing most of them need to do, is learn to manage all the money they make, instead of spending it on clothes, shoes, and getting their hair done almost every day.
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Ryan754326 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:47 pm I’ve known plenty of bar girls in my time, and if they really want to get out of the industry that bad, the first thing most of them need to do, is learn to manage all the money they make, instead of spending it on clothes, shoes, and getting their hair done almost every day.
Yeah, they should just go to work looking like rag-bags. :?
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John Bingham wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:01 am
Yeah, they should just go to work looking like rag-bags. :?
Yes, I get it, the job requires them to maintain a good appearance, the same way a tuk tuk driver has to maintain his machine, but the average customer doesn’t know or care about the difference between a $10 dress and a $100 dress, and a $100 Android will do almost all the same things as the newest iPhone.
I still use a 10 year old iPhone 5. A girl in a bar laughed at it a few years ago.

Dialing up your lifestyle as you earn more money is no way to get out of poverty.
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Ryan754326 wrote: I’ve known plenty of bar girls in my time, and if they really want to get out of the industry that bad, the first thing most of them need to do, is learn to manage all the money they make, instead of spending it on clothes, shoes, and getting their hair done almost every day.
yes you’re right, but that’s the whole point. They haven’t had the privilege of a good or even average education. 35-40% of them are illiterate. They simply haven’t had the opportunities you and I have had.
Nobody taught them money management or budgeting. Nobody spoke to them about the value of thinking long term.
They suddenly earn some decent money in the bars and they want something that they have seen richer people display on Facebook. Expensive phones, jewellery, nice clothes give them a sense of worth, it gives them face in front of others, however misguided we know that is.


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