NokTang wrote:

Jacket wrote:

NokTang wrote: These over priced drinks are to help the bar, not the girl. Why that isn't clear yet I don't know. It has been explained over and over again but some of you still don't get it.

You do understand that the girls get some money for every "lady drink" right? I think the rate that is commonly going is 5000 to 6000 Riel for every drink that's 3,5$.

I'm not even going to go into the comparison that you made with NIKE. If you don't get why this makes you look like an ass then there's truly nothing I can do here.

Good morning...

1. Of course that is the system, but said money is not earned and therefore my point remains valid. The "bar" is enticing the girl to sell something of no value to the customer. It doesn't help her, it ruins her. I've said it many times before and I'm not an ass for stating the truth and not hiding the underbelly of such a scene.

2. Go ahead, make my day. Companies come into Cambodia and pay local wages. They don't open a NIKE or GAP factory and pay a days wage per hour or via a drink or one shirt. The comparison is that real companies and businesses pay fair wages while a very few on here encourage lady drinks, which aren't anything but a scam. NIKE and GAP aren't scamming anyone.

Are you kidding me? NIKE and the sorts run sweatshops where they give hard working men and women a disgracefully small wage. It's 80$-100$. That is your idea of a good job and of an ethical company? Give me a fucking break, dude!

To go back to your first point: It does by no way ruin her and it is not a scam. A scam requires somebody to be betrayed. But who is being betrayed here? Everybody knows what the deal is. You pay her a drink or two and in return she's keeping you company and gets some money out of it. How is this a scam? Do you even know what a scam is?

You know what's actually bad for these girls? Fucking assholes, such as yourself! People who hear that somebody is paying 30$ and asks "What have you done to Phom Penh?". Let me lay this out for you. YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO SEX!
You have no right to complain if a girl asks for more money than what you are willing to pay. It is her choice whether she gives it up for free or for 10$ or 30$ or 50$ or whatever ammount of money that she see's fit. I encourage that. They do not have the sort of job that I would want my daughter to have so they should at least get as much money out of it as they can.
You know what else? If you ask one of the 15$ street walkers at Wat Phnom that you probably go to, then I bet you that she isn't going to say "I'm so glad that I'm not working in one of those bars, where I would be corrupted by some sort of nebulous scam and where I could be making as much money as I'm making on the streets without sucking anybody's dick."
The really retarded thing is that you probably think that you are just so righteous. You go to a country that is poor as fuck and you pay the least ammount of money that you can get away with so that you can have sex with desperate impoverished women. You are fucking disgusting!

I am not against whoring as a whole. I'd be a hypocrite if I said that .These girls offer sex for money and we offer money for sex. That is OK. But giving a girl a bare minimum of what she will accept so that she will sleep for you whilst complaining how harmful the "lady drink" business model is, is either a sign of hypocracy or outright insanity.

and in addition, buying a lady drink or 2 for a girl is a good way to see if you want to take her [to bed,presumably] and, of course, if she wants to take you. there is nothing quite so much of a drag as taking a girl to your room who you don't want to be around and/or who doesn't want to be with you. A lady drink is a bargain.

If you are worried about buying a ld and then being told she's not avaiable in the horizontal, ask.

And Nok Tang, try subtlety. Girls, be they rich or poor, like it.

Jacket wrote: If you ask one of the 15$ street walkers at Wat Phnom.

Leaving your very childlike personal attacks aside, as I don't engage in that sort of tit for tat....please let those able to digest reality know that once again, you are quoting a barang price of "15$" when the real price is more like $5.usd for girls at the Wat.

This name calling is for the birds, and I don't mean angry birds. You sir/madam, don't have the ability to digest what I'm posting and rather than lash out like a little boy who's lost his baseball bat or ball, might I suggest a dose of reality? $100.usd a month is the basic rate for labor in Cambodia. I didn't set it nor do I employ anyone for this wage. But it's the wage. You will have to get over that before you can grasp the concept of $3.50 being for a days hard labor and how when the barang is seen paying this much for a small draft beer for a girl(or himself?) it impacts a girls willingness to clean house, raise kids, and do laundry for her man.

Otis wrote:And Nok Tang, try subtlety. Girls, be they rich or poor, like it.

I always let them make the first move mate. Buying them an overpriced drink has its pitfalls, I think we've covered that.

Otis wrote: If you are worried about buying a ld and then being told she's not avaiable in the horizontal, ask.

I'm not worried about it at all. I've been there, done that. Lesson learned. Lady drinks are nothing but a reward for good sexual services rendered should you happen to see her again and not intend on taking her out or with another girl etc.. It isn't for her to interview you and make her decision. The golden rule, whoever has the gold rules.

yea verrily

NokTang wrote:

Jacket wrote: If you ask one of the 15$ street walkers at Wat Phnom.

Leaving your very childlike personal attacks aside, as I don't engage in that sort of tit for tat....please let those able to digest reality know that once again, you are quoting a barang price of "15$" when the real price is more like $5.usd for girls at the Wat.

This name calling is for the birds, and I don't mean angry birds. You sir/madam, don't have the ability to digest what I'm posting and rather than lash out like a little boy who's lost his baseball bat or ball, might I suggest a dose of reality? $100.usd a month is the basic rate for labor in Cambodia. I didn't set it nor do I employ anyone for this wage. But it's the wage. You will have to get over that before you can grasp the concept of $3.50 being for a days hard labor and how when the barang is seen paying this much for a small draft beer for a girl(or himself?) it impacts a girls willingness to clean house, raise kids, and do laundry for her man.

Is it me, who is unable to "digest reality"? Because so far, if you look at this thread it seems as if more people than just me object to the pure, asinine bullshit that you're writing here. I'm just not a very diplomatic person. I value honesty. If I think you're a scumbag you can count on me telling you that you're a scumbag. on that note: You are a scumbag! Just wanted to point this out here. You just use my insults as a convenient excuse so you have a reason to ignore the actuall points that I made.

But you know what? I'm done arguing with you. You're just so stubborn and such an arrogant dick that you won't budge from you position one inch and that you think that everybody is wrong except for you. You probably never had to struggle a single day in your life. You never had to worry about whether you'll be able to eat the next day. If you would have, you'd probably stop being such a massive cunt. You'd maybe understand that it is not right that the average Cambodian worker gets 100$ or less for a hard month of work. The strikers that go on the street and demand 160$ per month are still incredibly humble in my opinion. Anything between 200$ and 300$ is an absolutely reasonable demand for these people to make. A selfish son of a bitch such as yourself wouldn't like that probably, because as soon as everybody gets payed a fair wage, shit might become more expensive for you. But that is all you care about, isn't it? You want yourself to have a blast and if you do that at the disadvantage of poor people who will never have the chances in their lives that you have got, then so be it. I can only hope that prosperity and progress will bring Cambodia to the state where people like you can't even afford to go to Cambodia for holiday anymore. Maybe Cambodians will be so wealthy one day, that they can go to your county and act as shitty there as you do right now.

You are a dispicable excuse for a human being and I wish never having to deal with you again. Whether online or god forbid in real life.

flying chicken wrote:Whenever I see these 2 words, the immediate thought come to mind is losers. Sure, you might feel awkward when a nicely dressed up chick trying to make a conversation with you...but she invited herself. Offer her a glass of wate. Lady drink..wtf is that? You need to be sophisticated to be called lady, simply spreading your legs to $ is called hooker. They appreciate it better giving 3 bucks tip instead of spending 3 dollars on a lady drinks. Or if you really want to fuck her, ask her straight up and stand firm on your 30 bucks offer.

Why is it always the guys that cant afford it that are the first to post negative comments,....