Explain a barfine please?

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Explain a barfine please?

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Kuroneko wrote:

................. Hostess bars are a seperate category and while you certainly can obtain a girl for the night. There is much more to the hostess bar than that, here you pay for a girls attention and company while in the bar, its effectively sexualy charged entertainment in a pleasant environment. Many customers, go for the female company, to flirt, have a good time, before going home to their wives. Quite often hostesses have a particular "special customer" whom she goes with to the exclusion of others.They may occasionally have a night or weekend together, but generally come in regularly, see the same girl and buy her drinks before going home.

And to answer the "acid test" I would be quite happy to take my mother to the Black Cat and some other similar bars but I would probably draw the line at Candy and Bunny Bar :D
Good post, and describes the local bars' customers accurately IMHO.

I've taken my sisters and daughter into my hostess bar (and a couple of others) and they found it an interesting experience. They had preconceived ideas of what it would be like but had a different perspective after talking to several hostesses there.

Coming from countries with free healthcare, education, unemployment benefit, social welfare and all the other perks of the UK and Australia, they rapidly realised that survival here in Cambodia for uneducated girls from very poor families and with absolutely no welfare state required a completely different mindset.

Yes there is work available in clothing factories and restaurants, but that is fairly low paid. The ability to earn $300+ a month in a hostess bar (and that's without sleeping with customers) is a seemingly attractive alternative to a 21 year old girl. Almost all of them send 50-75% of their earnings back to their families.

To be completely honest my family does say they wish I would turn my talents to other types of business, but what the hell, I'm living my life for me rather than them! :-)
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FreeSocrates! wrote:
General Mackevili wrote:
Shanghai Bar is a good example of a "hostess bar" that does just fine without really letting the girls leave with customers at all.

So, are they "brothels"? No. Are the owners of these typical hostess bars "pimps"? No. Is it a fine line sometimes? Yes, and thank God for that, LoL! !
You can take girls form Shanghai, at least you used to be able to. You just have to have like a $30 bill when you leave. Which my friends say is way better than a bar fine.

Shanghai is NOT a good example of a "hostess bar" if only because it's modus operandi and cliental is quite unique. i.e. It's not the norm as far as hostess bars go.

I think they do better, because they don't let the girls leave... until the $30 bill; so it becomes more of a regular drinking hole amongst the cliental.
Interesting that. Not hard to run up a $30 bill in any girly bar. Only ever been in Shanghai for a quick beer on a few occasions.
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Shanghai bar is quite a good place and has always been slightly different to the average hole-in-the-hall girly bar. The problem is the owner is an arse of the highest order and whilst he has his mates, I know loads of people that just won't go there anymore because of him. Sometimes pretty girls aren't everything.
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as i recall the food is good, 2008 ish
used to go years ago, sometimes would sit with girls an others would come over an ask for the paid receipts so they would get credit so they could make the $30 if they wanted to leave early
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Garry.Crabtree wrote:Shanghai bar is quite a good place and has always been slightly different to the average hole-in-the-hall girly bar. The problem is the owner is an arse of the highest order and whilst he has his mates, I know loads of people that just won't go there anymore because of him. Sometimes pretty girls aren't everything.
it's interesting how people here are so fixated on the owners of bars... i think it's a side effect of so many expats being bar owners.

i go to a ton of bars where i have zero clue who the owner is, both back home and here. sure, i know a few owners and like going to their bars, but that's probably the minority of places i frequent.

what happened to going to a bar because it's a fun place?
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there are three types of bars in my eyes;

1.where you go cause the owner is a great guy and enjoyable to talk to
2. bars with girls and i could give a fuck who owns it
3. bars such as Sharkies which offers a bit of everything ( food, girls-(freelancers so no hassles with bar fines), entertainment, good owners)

problem with the first is if your not there the bar does no business

So for all looking for an investment go for the 3rd
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Help me out here. What's the Shanghai barfine policy?

If you run up a $30 bill you can then pay to barfine one girl? Is the barfine free if you have spent $30?

What if you are buying lady drinks for multiple girls? Once you hit $30 total, can you take any girl or all of them?
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I'm pretty sure if you spend $30 you can take the girl out (no additional bar fine). But, it's more for taking her out to dinner or dancing or something like that, and only if she decides to go with you.

I'm not sure if this is still the policy as it was 2.5 years ago I actually went there on a regular basis.

I found if you just put in the time and make friends with the girls there they will end up taking you out anyways, once they finish work.

But there is also alot of gold diggers there.
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Garry.Crabtree wrote:Shanghai bar is quite a good place and has always been slightly different to the average hole-in-the-hall girly bar. The problem is the owner is an arse of the highest order and whilst he has his mates, I know loads of people that just won't go there anymore because of him. Sometimes pretty girls aren't everything.
I find since Larry has left, I go there a helluva alot less. Maybe once a month.

The food is not nearly as good as it once was.
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not just run up a $30 tab but more if your drinking with one or two girls and they get some of that in drinks
she can CHOOSE to go with you for no additional bar fine
but its her choice
at least thats the way it used to be, i used to go in there a few times a week to eat an drink, many of the girls speak good English as well
but as said there looking for long term

They used to dress very nice as well :-)
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