Welcome to CEO OP. After reading this topic so far, hope you have a healthy sense of humour.

Never mind some of the cynicism, it goes with the territory here I think and not an uncommon experience for those coming here. I personally think members Kammekor and Chuck Borris summed it up nicely FWIW.

Where are all the successful life coaches like NKOTB, Gavinmac, GenMac, OrangeDragon, DetroitMuscle, GM whatever his name his, who have all been through that young hapless north american buying a poverty dependent wife she's different process that you need.

OP don't take any notice of anything. It's simple, if you have deeper pockets than anyone else, you may be in with a slim chance.

ofparadise wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:23 am

The video states the girls (in Pattaya at least) have a scoring system for potential customers, the presenter refers to the customers in terms of dream catch, white knight to take them out of the bar, someone to care of them and their family, raise their status, find their perfect partner et al.

Whilst I'm sure this is still the case to some degree, I would argue it's not the overall case as it once was. When I first went to Thailand and the Philippines in the 1980s, it was very much the case. Especially in the Philippines where there was grinding poverty, Marcos was in power, Imelda was adding to her shoe collection and there was nightly midnight curfews. Every filipina's dream was to get out of the country and marry an Australian or American. Even Thailand back then was a bit the same.

Now, in the last 40 odd years these countries have really moved up the development stakes such that the economic gap between them and western countries is not what it used to be. Many girls now working in the bars are not necessarily in the same situation anymore. Some, and I came across quite a few in Thailand and now in PP, have no ambitions to marry a foreigner and move to another country. Rather, they would prefer to stay in their own country and make good money in the bars if they are cute and attractive. So, the scoring system for them is to get the best paying customer..no more.

I know some for instance who are not at all interested in working in a regular job here making $200/month when they can make 2, 3 times more and then some if they're smart. Furthermore, with the advent of social media, some have 3-4+ overseas sponsors sending them money. I know some that have been in that game for 5 years or more and wondered whether they will ever leave. I would call these 'professional bar girls'. Unless of course one day they are aiming for the ultimate prize of a multi millionaire in which case they are truly gold diggers imo.

OTOH I've also met bar girls that are truly looking for someone to take care of them and get out of the bar scene and it's not necessarily all about the money. I recall one girl who lamented to me one day that her sister had found a husband after only 3 months, and that she'd still not found one after more than 1 year. I knew this girl quite well. Good heart and it wasn't all about the money but she was in the bar to support her parents and she couldn't wait to get out of there. The good news is that a few months later she did meet a younger Aussie guy, they got married and she moved to Sydney.

Would be interested to know @jah steu's take on this issue as I think times have changed quite a bit.

I think jah steu put the survey into the thread last, and it looks very much like an honest account of how a bar girl may earn her money, some are better than others for earning, or may have more experience, better looks, or simply work harder then some girls who maybe, or maybe not be in the same position. Taking it has the oldest profession in the world, to get the kind of income in a straight paid job would be very difficult or near impossible.
Why do bar girls do what they do? I know there are a multitude of reasons. But the simple answer would be to say "money" like any other job but possibly high earning over a shorter period in the girls working lives.
Has for hooking up with the foreign man, living happily ever after, sure some! But I bet they're are more broken hearts than the happy ones.

Brian the hardman smack smuggling gangster from Glasgow, the lakeside and Koh Kong preached this regularly..

"Golden rule; Do Not!! marry a prostitute, lads"

He died of hep in a Bombay gaol but he did get one thing right.

RUN!