PP. degrading treatment

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Alex wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:55 pm Ah, being a sex tourist doesn't seem to be as much fun as it used to be. Tough titties.
He travels the world in search of prostitutes, and then flies into a rage when they won't socialize with him unless he is spending money.
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Hopefully, this thread will serve as a warning to other, potential, sexpats/sex tourists that your days of literal poverty sex may well be over.

In fact it would be an interesting exercise to quantify the sex appeal of some of these sex tourists/sexpats.
So, first we would need to set the variables that come into play.
  1. Physical Appearance
  2. Confidence
  3. Personality
  4. Health
  5. Status
  6. Behavior
  7. Voice
  8. Scent
  9. Compatibility
We could then assign a weighting to each variable such that, for Cambodia, something like "Status" (ie wealth) would have a greater weighting than "Compatibility". If we could get the weighting values to be correct, relative to each other, then I believe the equation would look something like this:-

(w1 * Physical Appearance + w2 * Confidence + w3 * Personality + w4 * Health + w5 * Status + w6 * Behavior + w7 * Voice + w8 * Scent + w9 * Compatibility)
(w1 + w2 + w3 + w4 + w5 + w6 + w7 + w8 + w9)

for those viewing on a smaller display here is the equation expressed as a single line.
(w1 * Physical Appearance + w2 * Confidence + w3 * Personality + w4 * Health + w5 * Status + w6 * Behavior + w7 * Voice + w8 * Scent + w9 * Compatibility) / (w1 + w2 + w3 + w4 + w5 + w6 + w7 + w8 + w9)

w1, w2, w3..... are the respective weights assigned to each variable.

The next step requires a collective effort to order the numbered list into an order where (1)= highest weighting to (9) = lowest weighting.
Then the relative weightings would need to have values assigned and once thats done we could use our collective judgement to assign values to the nine variables based on a scale of 1 - 10 where 10 would equate to perfection
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fidolio wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:09 pm …Do the bargirls who think the the tourist pay flight tickets for thousand of dollars to get there and then sit alone with a fucking beer in a girlie bar and be served with idiot prices that together with crazy lady drinks and barfines are the highest in the world today
It’s hard to tell, given the obvious language barrier. But I wonder what the girls who subject themselves to this, think, when they compare the thousands of dollars spent getting there, to the reluctance to spend a bit of money and generate some conversation or some appeal.

Today, I walked down 136, and saw the empty rows of chairs and stools where the produce will be displayed just a little later. It’s a sad sight. We (family) quite often eat at the street stall across from what used to be Route136. Next to Helicopter bar.
There are some pretty girls working in some of those bars, and young, getting a toughened skin, and some life lessons that I’m sure are incomprehensible even (or especially) to the mongers that are going to paw them.
And the monger complains!
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The cons are outweighing the pros!

Times have certainly changed, many of the old outdoor hair salons that used to be on st 5 have now gone, previously me being a cheap Charlie I used to sit there and drink cheap cans at one or more of them whilst watching, and admiring the constant stream of pretty young girls. There used to be about 3 or 4 salons in a row there between 136 bar on st 130, and Dream bar 118, all these salons were selling cheap cold cans and you could have half decent banter once you got to know some of the workers and bargirls.
Nearly every bargirl used to frequent at least one of those salons evert night, sometimes more often than once if they’ve had a short time, or more likely made a longtime to short time conversation.
Whilst sitting there and observing a girl i liked I would simply smile and politely ask her name and if I could possibly have her cell Phone number, I'm not really interested where she works!
Whilst walking the streets I would also say hello to a pretty girl and strike up conversation, 95% are all on social media anyhow, the online game is thriving once you’ve weeded out the ladyboy time wasters!!

Cambodian’s clip joint girlie bars are for 2 week tourists who need their ego’s massaged with a few bell rings, a round of 5 lady drinks, a rough shoulder massage and the chance to feel a bit of tit on their elbows.

As for st 51 😂 at least the degenerate toothless old hags and their crystal meth is cheap!
I bet a $5 baggie of that goes down better with them girls there than a thimbles worth of fruit juice for the same price, both will rot your teeth though!

The daytime girly bars scene from what I’ve witnessed recently strolling about is dire.
Just a handful of unprepossessing 50 cent draught beer chasers who will throw their toys out of their pram if they run over time and get charged 75 cents for their last beer.

If sex tourist numbers don’t improve next high season I think the Riverside entertainment area could gradually begin to start going into an even more serious decline, a bit like Emita Manila did in the early 90’s which I know was actually intervention from the then major but the same could easily happen here too!
Many Philipino bar businesses ended up moving up from Manila to Angeles City Pampanga, some later going on to thrive after the initial Pinatubo volcano eruption had settled.
If shit hits the fan here where do you see the Riverside entertainment centre relocating to?
Maybe a K11 revival? 🤔 Or will the expat girly bar scene cease to exist?

If I moved here now for the first time green I would be wondering what the fuck I’m missing mongering wise, it’s almost worse than Vietnam now.
I’ll be heading back to Pattaya for a visit soon to see if the grass is any greener?
No pun intended….
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Fuct if I could read all that degenerate blurb. :?
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John Bingham wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:23 pm Fuct if I could read all that degenerate blurb. :?
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If you've been in Southeast Asia for several decades, it's just a fact of life that you have to deal with:

Adult entertainment areas aren't nearly as fun as they used to be due to loud shitty ''music'', higher prices, fewer attractive women, etc.

It's simply not possible to recapture the feeling of the old days as it's just not there anymore. Nothing lasts.

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If you’re in a hostess bar not buying drinks, that usually signals to the girls that you want to be left alone.

I’ve never heard of someone going to a hostess bar, refusing to buy lady drinks, and then complaining that the girls wouldn’t talk to him.

Do pretty 19 year old waitresses and bartenders in Sweden stop what they’re doing and sit with him and talk to him if he buys himself a beer?
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Making the decision to sell your body to someone you most likely find revolting can't be a great job, but people make the decision to do it. I'm not judging anyone for it, the situation is what it is.

But if you're going to do it there must be a point where you say to yourself 'if I have to do it, this is my minimum price'. It shows self-respect and a sense of dignity, anything less just isn't worth it to me. And then someone comes along and tells you you're not worth anything near that amount and tries to put his own price on your dignity.

At this point you have to ask yourself, who is degrading who?
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Nobby Stiles wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:59 pm
John Bingham wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:23 pm Fuct if I could read all that degenerate blurb. :?
Your education was free but you flunked it!
I was referring to the original post, not yours.
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