Want to buy a hostess bar

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What is a daygone bar?
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Kammekor wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 10:58 pm
willyhilly wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:08 pm Well it’s nearly 2022 and it’s a good time to buy a bar. Surely. But not with a girlfriend. I might just come and have a look. I’m on the pension so a little bit more than breaking even would suffice.
I can still speak enough Khmer to get into trouble and know how to build things.
You're willing to spend seven nights a week sitting at the front of your bar from 20.00-03.00 guarding your business for a little more than breaking even?

Run. Run now. And buy Bitcoin or Microsoft stock instead.
And doing it all while sober. Because if you drink from 8pm-3am every night, you wont last long healthwise and you'll be useless at your new job of bar owner/manager.

The thought of spending just an hour in an empty hostess bar, while sober, is depressing enough.
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willyhilly wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:08 pm Well it’s nearly 2022 and it’s a good time to buy a bar. Surely. But not with a girlfriend. I might just come and have a look. I’m on the pension so a little bit more than breaking even would suffice.
I can still speak enough Khmer to get into trouble and know how to build things.
WH you gettin a bit bored down there? You dont have to buy someone elses crap thares plenty of empty space available. Best get on the ground here and take a look.😎
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Just think of all the free sex.
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Don't screw the crew.
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All these financial whizkids telling you how bad an idea you have.

Remember, they mostly live in Cambodia, and there are only a few reasons for that. One isn't because they are successful businessmen/women, whom, out of all the places they could reside in, they have chosen one of the most corrupt, dirty, poverty-stricken. Commonly, the opposite. Other reasons are for others to discuss.

Anyone who puts down your business idea instantly is, as a general rule, not someone to listen to. Negative people. The following is more a mind-set you will need for an edge. However, it will used to facilitate everyday functionality. So it might come across as negative. Not the intention. Take it as you wish. If you get it, you might do well. If you don't or don't agree, PM me with an invite to the opening party, and I'll bring the "For Sale" posters.

Timing is not the worst, with plenty of deals and tourists returning at some stage soon-ish.

You will need to work hard and persevere. Innovate, and YOU NEED TO KNOW PEOPLE and maintain a customer base. Veeerrrrrrry few (single digit) locals know how to handle disputes. Ensure that staring at, or any acknowledgement to, other people's business is NOT ACCEPTABLE.

Sack people immediately, no 2nd chances, early on, professionally, to set a precedent that this is a business; we are about to be number 1 in this game (which it is not, even though the girls need to have a party every day. If not able to be fun any day, don't come in, try out your excuse, prepare for the worst).

Let them know, early you are not stupid (they think they are clever).

Meeting (corny psyche up), everyday.

First things First: Think the Language (I am not talking about Khmer)

Promotions, competitions geared towards all staff members with a shot at winning, not just the number 1 girl; you can show your appreciation in private - financially, because we do not dip the pen in the company ink, particularly with a hand-break. Obvious stated - and at the same time explain why it is important for you to not openly show favouritism. Then say, it is "because you really do appreciate all the girls". The last part, and similar remarks, are needed to be said, because when you talk to any one of them, including your partner, you may as well be talking to all of them. Over a loud speaker.

Think like them (locals), or sink like them (others, who thought they would start a bar. Chapter 1. "The Inheritance" - Sounds like a dream, Chicks. Hey I dont even care if I only break even. So long as I live for free, I'm cool, man. Chapter 2. "The Flight Home" - Best month of my life! Just get a job, save the bikkies, and get back there. Chapter 3. "Why Can't I Stop Crying")

Don't try to be Western. Think Cambodian. Imagine them running staff in Cambodian, in our countries. Not gonna work.

The way it works here is dishonestly, without it being evident. In other words, pay them in full, on time (this maintains your control, face and hand), at the same time as you falsely/genuinely (all the same) praise and compliment them for your own good: "That is why you are not only, the only ones getting paid currently, but will always be the best paid and looked after, in Phnom Penh" - hey, they feel good, you feel good because you made them feel good. What's the harm right? Just take a little extra for doing so. Start thinking this way, or you won't know what just happened, and why you can't stop crying. And, "was that lump always there?"

Encourage the good ones to recruit friends.

Have the 1st train the 2nd. Make the 1st responsible for the 2nd, so 2nd plays up, you go to 1st. This way 1st will keep 2nd in line. Because you have no chance of doing it.

Give ever staff member roles and duties. They are in charge of that space. Others go to them regarding said area, as do you, with praise, for updates, and to review the work. Don't complain about their work, first ask why something wasn't performed unsatisfactorily (be genuine as there might be a legitimate reason).

LISTEN UNTIL THEY STOP TALKING - if this goes on for 20 minutes, grab a pen a paper - then go through everything they said. I like to start with the good stuff. Colombo style. It relaxes them, takes them off edge. Makes them vulnerable. You now have full control. Bide your time. Make sure you reiterate certain things so there is no ambiguity, but do not raise suspicion or they will sit up again.

From here there are different closing scenarios. Always make them assume the meeting is over, listen for an exhale (a good tell), then at the very last second, Colombo style, "Just one thing that has been bothering me..." or "You know, my wife loves those crackle things you all eat. What are they called? Scratchings! That's right. You always eat those. Where are the best ones? Thanks." This could be because there was one at the scene or whatever. It can be used to incriminate or raise fear so you can then watch the ensuing action because you know exactly what they will need to do to cover their ass.

Colombo 1. Throw out a crumb, see what eventuates (unlikely, but possible). NO ACCUSATIONS, JUST A HINT THAT YOU ARE ON TO SOMETHING.
Colombo 2. Set them up for a lie (early on). The use it to incriminate in the close.
Colombo 3. Set them up for a lie to be used at a later meeting after you have checked for verification

You must always be setting them up to lie. This is easy because it is their preferred answer over the truth, regardless of which would present a better outcome.

Once you have lies, you have truth. It is what all investigations are based on. The culprit will lie if denying a crime. They HAVE to.

Lie disclosed, case almost closed: They are guilty of the crime or wrong-doing, or they are covering for someone. Easily fixed. Either it was you, and this is what going to happen. *they will interrupt* "Stop talking now. You had your chance. I will give you another chance soon" (because they will talk, and you want them to - when they talk you shut up, because they will trip up a lot - but we at now is at the end). As I was saying, Either it was you, and this is what going to happen.. or you tell me who it was. "Shut up! I am not finished." If you do not tell me who it was. It was you. These are the only 2 options. Do not answer with anything else. Go ahead.

A 'little bitch' informant is very useful, but she needs to be played. Lightly reprimand her each time because tell-telling is not good, while taking everything on board and making sure her confidentiality is maintained, and her usefulness is rewarded, discretely. Get this one to infiltrate competition - this is not a game (and if it is, winning is everything!), this is war. This is survival of the fittest. Leave nothing on the battle field, soldier! Or don't start your demise in the first place, because there are only a few customers to go around, and you either want them all, or you do not understand business.

These sort of under-handed tactics are the only way to win in a country that only understands this way. Niceness means sucker! It gets no inner respect, only an outward impression, that gets easier for them because you want believe it, so do, they laugh at you gullibleness, you think they are happy, you say something not funny, they take this opportunity to release they laughter they have been holding in, you think they are laughing at your idiot joke, they laugh even harder, and harder, and harder. Then, BANG! Where's the money? Where is Flossy Few-Clothes, these days? And life gets harder, and harder, and harder... and it is only a matter of time before an opportunity presents itself to bring you to your knees. Because the pressure will cause you to take breaks from the bar when the cockies come out and scurry back into position when a lookout alerts them of your approach. You will hear, and cringe when you remember me telling you, WTTE "You are tired, you should go home. Sleep. I take care. Close. No problem, Darling. You work hard". And they won't give a shit, in fact, they will be celebrated, because this is what they have been training for, all their life.

There are other issues to deal with, like donating to the honourable and competent policing of the industry.

There are good times too. But you're playing an away game, now. This is their turf, their rules.

Still want to open a bar?
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Pseudonomdeplume wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:35 pm LISTEN UNTIL THEY STOP TALKING - if this goes on for 20 minutes, grab a pen a paper - then go through everything they said. I like to start with the good stuff. Colombo style. It relaxes them, takes them off edge. Makes them vulnerable. You now have full control. Bide your time. Make sure you reiterate certain things so there is no ambiguity, but do not raise suspicion or they will sit up again.

From here there are different closing scenarios. Always make them assume the meeting is over, listen for an exhale (a good tell), then at the very last second, Colombo style, "Just one thing that has been bothering me..." or "You know, my wife loves those crackle things you all eat. What are they called? Scratchings! That's right. You always eat those. Where are the best ones? Thanks." This could be because there was one at the scene or whatever. It can be used to incriminate or raise fear so you can then watch the ensuing action because you know exactly what they will need to do to cover their ass.

Colombo 1. Throw out a crumb, see what eventuates (unlikely, but possible). NO ACCUSATIONS, JUST A HINT THAT YOU ARE ON TO SOMETHING.
Colombo 2. Set them up for a lie (early on). The use it to incriminate in the close.
Colombo 3. Set them up for a lie to be used at a later meeting after you have checked for verification

You must always be setting them up to lie. This is easy because it is their preferred answer over the truth, regardless of which would present a better outcome.

This reads like the management style of a complete psychopath.

I can't imagine ever wanting to work for someone that plays those kind of games with his employees, trying to trick them into telling lies that he can use against them. I really hope you don't have people under you who you treat like that, their working lives would be a fucking nightmare.
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A 'little bitch' informant is very useful,
..takes them off edge. Makes them vulnerable. You now have full control.
Then, BANG! Where's the money? Where is Flossy Few-Clothes, these days?
when the cockies come out and scurry back into position when a lookout alerts them of your approach
because this is what they have been training for, all their life.
This is their turf, their rules.
Get this one to infiltrate competition - this is not a game...... this is war. This is survival of the fittest. Leave nothing on the battle field, soldier!

It sounds like Pseudonomdeplume enters girly bars wearing army fatigues carrying a bundle of war comics under his arm.

That was a pretty weird read.
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WH doesnt need your advice. He lived here for years.
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canucklhead wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:23 am WH doesnt need your advice. He lived here for years.
Thanks for your useful advice.
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