New busy place to open bar ?

frank lee bent · Post by **frank lee bent** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:40 pm

you could buy a decent boat for 4k if you know your way around boats and live on that. maybe take some tourists on short trips if you are the sociable type.
should get something between 12 amd 15 meters long for that. maybe even new, or build one down past the port in SV.
a river boat in Kampot would be safest, but if you are a saltwater man the longtails around SV may suit you.
catch some fish, for sure could live cheap like that.
there was a barang that called into SV regularly for a while with a sailing version that he converted.
all the hull forms are sail types anyway.
http://www.boatsandrice.com/sGulfCoast.html

timmydownawell · Post by **timmydownawell** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:48 pm

alexfrance22 wrote:i dont understand you ??? why the landlord will do it to me and not to other people who open buisness ??? you are very weird on this site. I feel like you said the bad thing to everyone for keep your buisness and dont get more foreigner!!!

I haven't been here very long but your question seems to get asked fairly often. I think the problem is there are too many bars and not enough tourists to sustain them.. so this is why everyone is responding to you in the same way. It's just not a viable business plan.

frank lee bent · Post by **frank lee bent** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:22 pm

it is the next less quixotic thing i could think of.
at least you could get some of your money back when you are done.
now the tourists here are mostly chinese, if you want barang clients, well they mostly go to the islands now, and do not stay in Sihanoukville.
I assume with your budget you are not considering Phnom Penh
cambodia is very seasonal for tourism, only 3-4 months high season

hanno · Post by **hanno** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:36 pm

alexfrance22 wrote:i dont understand you ??? why the landlord will do it to me and not to other people who open buisness ??? you are very weird on this site. I feel like you said the bad thing to everyone for keep your buisness and dont get more foreigner!!!

Maybe a few of us have been here for a few years and have seen fools come and go at an amazing rate? And I think very few of the posters here have invested in 9,000-Dollar bars. Basically, you are 10-15 years too late; the only people that make money with bars these days are the people that flip them to morons thinking running a bar is easy.

As an aside: how much experience do you have running a bar?

PSD-Kiwi · Post by **PSD-Kiwi** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:09 pm

He stated that he has worked as a bartender for about 3 months, no experience running a bar. Has only ever spent 1 month in Cambodia.

Coming here with basically no experience of the hospitality industry or Cambodia, with only $9k, and hoping to open a bar and make enough to be able to live on 600 p/mth is only going to end badly...the OP really is clueless.

kptic · Post by **kptic** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:53 pm

OP, your plan might have worked 15 years ago, but it won't work in 2016. Sorry.

alexfrance22 · Post by **alexfrance22** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:24 pm

why not go to island and open something then ?

mammothboy2 · Post by **mammothboy2** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:28 pm

The OP ought to serve an unpaid (bed & board only) internship at a going concern to learn all the realities of running a bar in a place where there are far too many bars - one foreigner, drunk or sober, behind the bar plus maybe two staff and 1 or 2 or 3 slowish drinkers of the cheapest stuff all afternoon ...

You do the math, as thy say

alexfrance22 · Post by **alexfrance22** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:32 pm

Ok thanks, other question. how much cost a place like 20 square meter in siem for exemple ? with electricity and everything? If the price is around 300 and 400 and i paye my room around 150 per month, why it will be impossible ?

Post by **Jamie_Lambo** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:44 pm

alexfrance22 wrote:Ok thanks, other question. how much cost a place like 20 square meter in siem for exemple ? with electricity and everything? If the price is around 300 and 400 and i paye my room around 150 per month, why it will be impossible ?

i dont think you could get a 20m2 plot in SHV for $3-400 let alone SR

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