rozzieoz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:14 pm There’s a big difference between tapping someone on the arse as you walk past and launching at someone demanding a bear hug without their consent.

Rozz, no there isn’t. I can only imagine giving either of those tactics a try with the ladies in my local, and I’ll likely be wearing my teeth as eyebrows. And that’s probably before the fellas stomp on.

Neither is acceptable, without consent.

rozzieoz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:14 pm There’s a big difference between tapping someone on the arse as you walk past and launching at someone demanding a bear hug without their consent.

Before I said no, sure, he didn’t know and maybe made assumptions. I’ve unintentionally offended people and apologised and stopped.

But once I said no, he kept going until a man told him to stop. Why did it need a man to step in?

Yikes !! You sure do a lot of moaning ..... I remember you asking for financial advice and then bitching the responses weren’t right or you just plain found fault with those who took time to respond ...... you appear the insufferable harpie a lot of us guys escaped the west because of ...... obviously the fellow who wanted to hug you is unaware of your CEO persona ....

Yerg wrote:

rozzieoz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:14 pm There’s a big difference between tapping someone on the arse as you walk past and launching at someone demanding a bear hug without their consent.

Rozz, no there isn’t. I can only imagine giving either of those tactics a try with the ladies in my local, and I’ll likely be wearing my teeth as eyebrows. And that’s probably before the fellas stomp on.

Neither is acceptable, without consent.

Since Brody mentioned the situation, I’ve actually never done it again intentionally. And if I do happen to bump someone I apologise profusely.

If I ask someone - can I have a hug? And they say no, I move on.
I never argue with someone about needing a hug when they don’t want one.

I specifically said no, don’t touch me. He argued with me that I NEEDED a hug. He would not take my no for an answer until a man stepped in.

That’s the difference - if someone says no to me I stop. Immediately.

CaptainCanuck wrote:

rozzieoz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:14 pm There’s a big difference between tapping someone on the arse as you walk past and launching at someone demanding a bear hug without their consent.

Before I said no, sure, he didn’t know and maybe made assumptions. I’ve unintentionally offended people and apologised and stopped.

But once I said no, he kept going until a man told him to stop. Why did it need a man to step in?

Yikes !! You sure do a lot of moaning ..... I remember you asking for financial advice and then bitching the responses weren’t right or you just plain found fault with those who took time to respond ...... you appear the insufferable harpie a lot of us guys escaped the west because of ...... obviously the fellow who wanted to hug you is unaware of your CEO persona ....

You men bitch and moan all day on this forum about shit. There’s no need for name calling.

rozzieoz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:26 am
If I ask someone - can I have a hug? And they say no, I move on.

That’s the difference - if someone says no to me I stop. Immediately.

Madam- what about when you decide not to ask at all? Like this:

@Captain Bonez has already documented an incident in which you, without consent, "grabbed" a mans ass, who was unknown to you and you to him.

Then you did not give the man a chance to say yes or no...

rozzieoz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:26 am

Yerg wrote:

rozzieoz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:14 pm There’s a big difference between tapping someone on the arse as you walk past and launching at someone demanding a bear hug without their consent.

Rozz, no there isn’t. I can only imagine giving either of those tactics a try with the ladies in my local, and I’ll likely be wearing my teeth as eyebrows. And that’s probably before the fellas stomp on.

Neither is acceptable, without consent.

Since Brody mentioned the situation, I’ve actually never done it again intentionally. And if I do happen to bump someone I apologise profusely.

If I ask someone - can I have a hug? And they say no, I move on.
I never argue with someone about needing a hug when they don’t want one.

I specifically said no, don’t touch me. He argued with me that I NEEDED a hug. He would not take my no for an answer until a man stepped in.

That’s the difference - if someone says no to me I stop. Immediately.

Okay, perhaps the difference between bumping into someone and tapping them on the arse wasn’t clear. That it might be accidental also wasn’t clear. If someone taps someone on the tush, it’s rarely an accident. If they bump in to it, then I’d agree.

If I ever meet you, I’ll be sure to email my permission for a hug well in advance so that there is no confusion.

Without being there and or really understanding the situation about the unwanted hug. its almost impossible for people on a forum to make comment on the real situation.
My read to this is not as sexist as you make out, that said, the (possibly drunk) hugger could have completely misread your requests to not touch. Without knowing your expressions, the mood or relationship at the time its hard to say.
I don’t think it mattered that a man had to step in to make the super hugger realize you are completely serious about the no touch request. Most times its more the fact that a third person (man or women) bringing it to the unawares attention, that they step back and realize ohh shit I have crossed the line.
I wonder, did he apologize or lough it off?

Agree, No means No

rozzieoz wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:00 pm Typically it goes like this, regardless of where I am or who I am talking to, nine times out of ten it will go something like this.
(I'll be sitting somewhere having a drink, or at a party, or an event, or anywhere where men and women congregate).

.......

This guy does sound like an ass hole, but we only hear your version of what happened.

At what point does it take for some people to realize that perhaps not all of the "other" people are 100% wrong and that they themselves might have an anger issue?

Just the title of your thread reminds me of my interactions with you. The emailing after hiring you and every (there were only a few) personal small chats, all of which you were very aggressive and nasty. This is no shocker for people who read this, I told her at the time.

CaptainCanuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:22 am


Yikes !! You sure do a lot of moaning ..... I remember you asking for financial advice and then bitching the responses weren’t right or you just plain found fault with those who took time to respond ...... you appear the insufferable harpie a lot of us guys escaped the west because of ...... obviously the fellow who wanted to hug you is unaware of your CEO persona ....

I'm glad I am not the only one on here with bad experiences with her and I get along with just about anyone!