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Re: What can employees do when not paid?

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explorer wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:42 pm There were 33 staff. At the present time there are around 20. The others have left already. Those still there have told the boss, if they dont get paid by the end of this month, they will all leave. The boss is supposedly trying to get money from somewhere.

I think the business is about to fail.

It is possible, the boss knows it will come to an end, but is pocketing all of the money until it happens.
OK. That was a key piece of information you left out. My advice hearing that is to immediately stop working. Very unlikely anyone is getting paid. Tell them to file a complaint with Ministry of Labour and cut their losses. Concentrate all their efforts on finding a new job. Whatever the reasons, if the staff has been cut from 33 to 20 already and salaries are still not being paid, the situation is obvious. The boss can not (legally anyway) selectively choose who gets their salary, so it doesn't matter if they quit today or end of month. They are still owed for days worked if money ever becomes available. Don't count on getting anything.

Can't say if the boss is hoarding money for himself or not, but it doesn't actually matter. Run, don't walk away. No point in working for free.
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Re: What can employees do when not paid?

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I suggested looking for another job some time ago. Maybe they would have, if they weren't so busy.

I am not directly involved. These are friends. This is what they have decided to do. The boss might want the business to continue, and might get some money.
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Re: What can employees do when not paid?

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I recently had experience with the Ministry of Labor. Apparently the Ministry was fairly civil with the employees. If several employees go together, all at once or in sequence and informing that they are all part of the same problem, it may increase the chances of getting a solution.

From my experience, the MoL will invite the employer to a meeting. Since it seems like an "open and close case" they will probably determine in favor of the employees.

The problem is in enforcement. I didn't see that the Ministry is very strong on enforcement, but apparently they have a Dept. of Labor Inspection. If the employer wants to continue their business, and they are confronted by the Labor Inspector, I would guess they are likely to arrange a solution.
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Re: What can employees do when not paid?

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:beer1: OK ,if the Big boss not paying his workers then they can make a battleline for the problem. Make a strong battleline, with h the single girl in frontline place .for the lady already have child's they go 2 line .Front line lady's can go amok = 20 minuets, they have the fighting power.
If the boss see them ,soon he stop his greedy game & money for workers will come.
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Re: What can employees do when not paid?

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lin.chea-ronh wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:23 pm :beer1: OK ,if the Big boss not paying his workers then they can make a battleline for the problem. Make a strong battleline, with h the single girl in frontline place .for the lady already have child's they go 2 line .Front line lady's can go amok = 20 minuets, they have the fighting power.
If the boss see them ,soon he stop his greedy game & money for workers will come.
Sounds like the Candy Bar brawl! :stir:
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Re: What can employees do when not paid?

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The business owner might be the son of top brass, so he know he does not have to pay his workers.
If the workers quit, he might just hire more people who work for a few weeks then not be paid.
And on and on, so he gets months of free labor.
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