I want to clear up some misunderstanding about the Chinese

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Re: I want to clear up some misunderstanding about the Chinese

Post by SINUS » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:52 pm

clutchcargo wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:01 pm
SINUS wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:26 pm
ozguyinshv wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:51 am
I met some very friendly Chinese in Sihanoukville when I was working there. Knowing some of the language helped. But yeah Sihanoukville is a dump.
Once in Australia on the Victory River I met a crocodile who was friendly with me and did not try to devour me.
however, I do not trust crocodiles. :)
Made me think of this... :mrgreen:

The Scorpion and the Frog is an animal fable that seems to have first emerged in Russia.

A scorpion asks a frog to carry it across a river. The frog hesitates, afraid of being stung by the scorpion, but the scorpion argues that if it did that, they would both drown. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. The scorpion climbs onto the frog's back and the frog begins to swim, but midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung, to which the scorpion replies "I couldn't help it. It's in my nature."
Yes, there is such a Russian fairy tale. :)
Well done, that you know it.
Only who in this fairy tale is Chinese, who are Khmer, and who are expats? :)
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Re: I want to clear up some misunderstanding about the Chinese

Post by Cruisemonkey » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:57 pm

SINUS wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:52 pm
Yes, there is such a Russian fairy tale. :)
Only who in this fairy tale is Chinese, who are Khmer, and who are expats? :)
Aren't the Chinese in Cambodia expats?
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Re: I want to clear up some misunderstanding about the Chinese

Post by SINUS » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:37 pm

Cruisemonkey wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:57 pm
SINUS wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:52 pm
Yes, there is such a Russian fairy tale. :)
Only who in this fairy tale is Chinese, who are Khmer, and who are expats? :)
Aren't the Chinese in Cambodia expats?
may the forum moderator forgive me, but I always thought that the expat and the occupier are different concepts.
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Re: I want to clear up some misunderstanding about the Chinese

Post by Asia Traveler » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:47 am

Mr.November wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:52 am
Asia Traveler wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:05 am
couple of questions from observations of the Chinese that frequent Phuket

Why do they feel the need to talk so DAM LOUD in public?
Why, in supermarkets do they block lanes and aisles?
Why do the have no respect for other cultures?
Why do they seem to not act human at times, (all one needs do is look at the videos of Chinese behaving badly) ?

Could you shed some light on these behaviors? It is extremely hard to like having anyone with these traits near you regardless of race or country or origin yet the main land Chinese demonstrate this behaviors so often. Why?
I already explained that. It is because of the Cultural Revolution and Chairman Mao. Actually many Chinese do have manners, look at the Chinese who grew up in Hong Kong, Taiwan or Singapore, very polite and helpful, not doing any of the above you listed - those countries didn't experience Maoism and Cultural Revolution. There are also many well mannered and well-off Chinese, but they tend to stay at home, and act normally, not being noticed abroad - or go to Europe, USA, Australia etc. - why would they need to start a new life in SE Asia if they can go to a rich country to have a good life?

You need to understand that the majority of Chinese in Cambodia are from poor, farmer or working-class backgrounds and grew up in smelly huts shared with chickens or in dirty, crumbling housing, and never were able to attain any good education, apart from their village primary/secondary school. Often they were brought up in poverty by their grandparents in the countryside, while parents worked in new factories in cities and visited only once or twice a year. Now they follow their parents' and grandparents' rural behaviour, which allowed the older generation to survive in Mao's era. Being a "proper" farmer with (exaggerated) farmer manners was envied, heroized and something to aspire to in China in the 60s and 70s, and no one wanted to be seen as a bourgeoisie contra-revolutionary, especially during the purges of Cultural Revolution. What was learned was never unlearned and continues to the second generation now. It is getting better though.
No I just do not think that is true.

First I said mainland Chinese as I don’t see the same behavior from other Chinese such as Hong Kong or Taiwan. I think it reflects a new arrogant attitude of the new wealth in China and their growing Nationalism. My days doing business in China back in the 80s I did not see this behavior what I saw was people who were generally polite and very interested in the outside world and other cultures. I also don’t see it in ethnic Chinese In the USA. All of these are generalizations but in Cambodia the Guides tell me the Temple Guards all get off their phones and get ready when a Chinese tour group arrives due to their bad behavior. I have noted in some restaurants I visit they are careful to seat people as far away from a Chinese dinning group as they know other find their behavior disruptive to a pleasant meal. It is like they are drunks without drinking. Are other people perfect? No. But no one group is as reliable at being obnoxious as the mainland Chinese. We all share the same planet so let’s try to be polite and respectful to each other at least.
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