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Snooky is cheaper because the stuff comes round the border from thailand. You can go watch them shipping it in by Koh kong. Big trucks into the SEZ, then tuks to the beach and a quick boat ride to avoid the bridge. Offload by the muslim village into small trucks off to snooky.
I have found some cheap stuff in the Khmer fruit and booze shops, just south of Sihaouk on monivong. Khmer will not pay tourist prices and they seem to have a liking for pasta and so on. these places look like supermarkets but half the windows is fruit
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Kammekor wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:57 pm OP,

PP is quite expensive for veggies and fruits compared with the surroundings.

Some typical prices I pay here, per kg. If you think the seller is cheating with the weight just smile,


take the bag to the seller next door, and have a look at that scale

Ginger: 6.000 - 10.000 r (there's different kinds....)
Tomatoes: 4.000-6.000 r
Apples: 7.000-10.000 r
Mangoes: 3.000-5.000 r depending on kind and season
Rice: 2.000-5.000 r depending on kind
Chicken: 12.000-20.000 r depending on part
Pork: same
Beef: same

And finally, the pineapple:

1.500 r and up.


Apart of the problem in being over charged when buying small amounts like one kg , is they are weighed on scales that weigh up to 20 or 50kg. The needle of the scales only has to move the width of a hair for it to be 100g, or even viewed at a side angle for your item to be under or over one kg. This is why electronic digital hand held scales are
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I doubt anything slips by unintentionally

Maybe a guy in immigration reroutes stuff for his wife who sells at the market, but that's about it
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Kammekor wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:57 pm OP,

PP is quite expensive for veggies and fruits compared with the surroundings.

Some typical prices I pay here, per kg. If you think the seller is cheating with the weight just smile, take the bag to the seller next door, and have a look at that scale

Ginger: 6.000 - 10.000 r (there's different kinds....)
Tomatoes: 4.000-6.000 r
Apples: 7.000-10.000 r
Mangoes: 3.000-5.000 r depending on kind and season
Rice: 2.000-5.000 r depending on kind
Chicken: 12.000-20.000 r depending on part
Pork: same
Beef: same

And finally, the pineapple:

1.500 r and up.
Thanks so much. From that data the difference between PP and SHV is not so dramatic. So I got, indeed, fucked royally. This really helps lot.
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(┛◉Д◉)┛ wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:04 pm Pizzalover you need some attitude adjustment. shop with the right attitude and things will improve in the market
Not really. If you refer to the old lady in SHV, she was the only one I could trust. What I do need is a base line in terms of realistic local prices. I got cauliflower for 7K per kg which was Ok until I put it on the home scale. So that electronic hand scale is surely a must. Pencil is on the to do list as are the others near Sihanouk.

Maybe something more general: Even if some of my questions seem a bit boring or so, the answers will help a lot of people. Once I have again "my" market ladies things will be easier. The Pencil and other 'local' supermarket references might sort out a few more items. Just keep in mind that PP appears to be rather different from places in surrounding countries and even SHV at least for starters.
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pczz wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:06 pm Snooky is cheaper because the stuff comes round the border from thailand. You can go watch them shipping it in by Koh kong. Big trucks into the SEZ, then tuks to the beach and a quick boat ride to avoid the bridge. Offload by the muslim village into small trucks off to snooky.
I have found some cheap stuff in the Khmer fruit and booze shops, just south of Sihaouk on monivong. Khmer will not pay tourist prices and they seem to have a liking for pasta and so on. these places look like supermarkets but half the windows is fruit
I was under the impression that most imported fruit and veg comes by road from Vietnam?
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John Bingham wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:29 pm
pczz wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:06 pm Snooky is cheaper because the stuff comes round the border from thailand. You can go watch them shipping it in by Koh kong. Big trucks into the SEZ, then tuks to the beach and a quick boat ride to avoid the bridge. Offload by the muslim village into small trucks off to snooky.
I have found some cheap stuff in the Khmer fruit and booze shops, just south of Sihaouk on monivong. Khmer will not pay tourist prices and they seem to have a liking for pasta and so on. these places look like supermarkets but half the windows is fruit
I was under the impression that most imported fruit and veg comes by road from Vietnam?
Bits of everything come through the back door at koh kong. there is a certain good fishing spot where you can catch fish and watch them getting new washing machines and tv,s out of a boat and stuffing them into small trucks. the material for the SEZ comes in tax free, so they pack the lorries with extras which then come backout the SEZ. There is only one big bridge to ton proper and that sometimes has police on so they take them round it by boat. Seen iceboxes as well probably frozen stuff from makro heading for samdera
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Forgot that to ask:

Kammekor: Where do you buy the meat?
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No new post for 2 hrs, so it is time to return to the all important question of tomato paste. Armed with the intel from Bitte kein Lexus I faced Monivong in the afternoon sun and dared crossing the menace at a traffic light. The usual suspects were taking a break and I reached the other side without a single serious attempt at my life. Encouraged by this success I ventured down 214 and soon the Gods sent me sign. The street has even a tomato bank which could only mean that the paste was not far. 100 meters after passing a place that looked like a coffee shop but is surely just a front for a brothel any ozzie in town will know, called the little sheep, I found pencil.

The place beats the 'big three' easily in at least some departments. First, and most importantly, they have tomato paste. Pretty much the same as at Samudera but different brand. 65 cent as opposed to 45 cent at Samudera which is ok. It is much better than those on the other side of 1 USD at the other shops. Pasta looked also pretty good, and jam was much better. They had some French product which was very reasonable. For many other products they had the usual brands but also cheaper ones. So Pencil is a good place. For meat and cold cuts not really.

On the way back I passed by at Kandal market and it looks is better than O'Russei but I will first check the wholesale market. I could not locate that elusive Hok Hieng Meat shop on 148 next to Kandal market. Next time i will try again. :)

I hear the sigh of relief, the paste has been found.
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Pizzalover wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:38 pm Forgot that to ask:

Kammekor: Where do you buy the meat?
Wherever I am when I am out and about for it. If you go in the early morning the flesh is relatively fresh and the flies are mostly still asleep.
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