Replacing US passport with a long Cambodia visa overstay?

terrifiedanimal · Post by **terrifiedanimal** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:51 am

I was never asked for DNA verification for my son's birth registration, but as a child, he looked a lot like me. I've read that those DNA verification requests are more common these days.

The cousin's husband is Mestizo, so the kids have dark hair and features. I think they'd appear to be Asian to one who didn't know their lineage. Plus, the dad's a flake and has no record of meaningful employment in Cambodia. He looks pretty rough, too. I imagine people check their wallets and belongings when they spot him nearby. He's gonna be asked for DNA verification, I'd bet on it.

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:35 am

John Bingham wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:06 pm I don't believe that a person's visa status has any bearing on whether they can get a new passport or not. That's the department of Immigration's concern.

I think that the biggest hurdle he will face is acquiring a Police report stating his passport was lost or stolen>
since he is on overstay he wont get that without paying the overstay i think, an that is required to replace a US passport, ( been there twice an done that is 2 different countries)

question
did he ever obtain a CRBA ( report of birth abroad) when they were born? ( if he did not, no SS $ .. That's the first step after he gets his passport
IF he never did that for the kids he wont get any stimulus $$ for them, but he will get the $1,200+ 600+ 1,400 we all got,
IF he has a bank account( for direct deposit) or he has filed tax's and has a registered address,which from ur statement i doubt he did or has ;-(

I did my daughter's back in 1994, so everything that follows is from then, seems it has changed since than.

it doesn't matter how long he has lived abroad, i had lived out of the states for over 10 years an got my daughter her us passport
I did not have provide dna, I did have photos of the mom pregnant and the counselor at the time in Phuket, knew me.

armchairlawyer · Post by **armchairlawyer** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:59 am

John Bingham wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:39 am
It depends on your nationality. I was never asked for one when getting my kid's EU passport. However some countries are much more strict, a friend from the UK had to get these done even though he had loads of photographs and documents to prove he was the father.

Are you sure it was the UK in your friend's case? My understanding is that the UK cannot insist on DNA evidence and in fact will usually decline to accept it if it is volunteered. They do insist on a lot of documentation of all other kinds, however.

Chad Sexington · Post by **Chad Sexington** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:54 pm

Genuinely curious here. Can a US citizen who has lived outside the US for several/many years having not paid any taxes or national insurance contributions (or whatever the US equivalent is) just rock up one day and immediately start claiming SS and backdated stimulus payments etc.? Seems doubtful to me.

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:13 pm

Chad Sexington wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:54 pm Genuinely curious here. Can a US citizen who has lived outside the US for several/many years having not paid any taxes or national insurance contributions (or whatever the US equivalent is) just rock up one day and immediately start claiming SS and backdated stimulus payments etc.? Seems doubtful to me.

in a word:
YES<

IF u paid into SS for 40 quarters, in ur lifetime (10 years) you can claim SS at the age of 62
Last time i Filed my tax return was in 1998, ( i lived in the states in 1997 )
I left the states in 1982 before that.

SS is NOT back dated but starts when you apply

Even if you have not filed tax's in years, you can get ur Stimulus payments.
Not sure about the stimulus payments being retroactive thou

bossho · Post by **bossho** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:49 pm

Yeah, so another moral of the story for any US citizen is to file anyway regardless of your living/working abroad write off (which is abt. $95K/per annum and don't have any tax liability). If you file anyway, no matter if its 10 years later it is in your favor, I can' t imagine how it would benefit you to not file in pretty much any case.

Another advantage of filing all those years back is that should you need to file a bankruptcy for any purpose i.e. does have to be related to your tax situation, back filed taxes or any filed taxes for that matter, that are seasoned 3 years from the filing date, can be included in a chapter 7 bk or chapter 11 bk. That little gem is worthy of a round if you all are buying I'm drinking whatever you are having.

You may as well take advantage of one of the last remnants of American greatness; the Bankruptcy Code, truly second to none anywhere. Even my old accountant, EX IRS agent that she is, did not know that lovely little detail of the finest bankruptcy code the world has seen to date.

TWY · Post by **TWY** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:01 pm

Chad Sexington wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:54 pm Genuinely curious here. Can a US citizen who has lived outside the US for several/many years having not paid any taxes or national insurance contributions (or whatever the US equivalent is) just rock up one day and immediately start claiming SS and backdated stimulus payments etc.? Seems doubtful to me.

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Your SS payment is dependent on several factors - primarily the number of years you worked and the amount of SS taxes you paid and when you choose to begin to receive payments. The more you work and contribute the more you receive.

You have to work and contribute for a minimum of 10 years (technically its 40 credits - you can earn 4 credits a year). If you are working overseas, there are 26? countries with tax treaties with the US that cover SS. In all other countries you must pay SS taxes to the US based on what you earn. Failure to do so is a crime.

So you don't just rock up one day and say hey give me some money. You pay into the system for your working career and then at age 62, 65, 67 etc you decide to begin receiving your payments.

Only work for 10 years and your payment is good for a modest 1BR apartment. Work for 20 years and you might get a used car and some food to go along with your apartment. Work for 30 years and you can live decently and send gifts to your grandkids.

TWY · Post by **TWY** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:02 pm

bossho wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:49 pm Yeah, so another moral of the story for any US citizen is to file anyway regardless of your living/working abroad write off (which is abt. $95K/per annum and don't have any tax liability). If you file anyway, no matter if its 10 years later it is in your favor, I can' t imagine how it would benefit you to not file in pretty much any case.

Another advantage of filing all those years back is that should you need to file a bankruptcy for any purpose i.e. does have to be related to your tax situation, back filed taxes or any filed taxes for that matter, that are seasoned 3 years from the filing date, can be included in a chapter 7 bk or chapter 11 bk. That little gem is worthy of a round if you all are buying I'm drinking whatever you are having.

You may as well take advantage of one of the last remnants of American greatness; the Bankruptcy Code, truly second to none anywhere. Even my old accountant, EX IRS agent that she is, did not know that lovely little detail of the finest bankruptcy code the world has seen to date.

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Its more than the moral of the story. You have to file by law. No matter where you work, income earned abroad is subject to US taxation for US citizens.

bossho · Post by **bossho** » Sat May 01, 2021 12:28 am

Thanks Mr Hardass, I mean Mr TWY, many people don't file when abroad and I agree that it is stupid in all cases. They are hung up on the $105,000 foreign earned income exclusion and misunderstand filing anyway regardless of that exclusion and I am tired of talking to stupid for the day however so goodbye.

The guy that this thread is about is kinda who I was talking to.

Here is a link to the IRS site regarding that income that you earned abroad that by God and by law you'd better darn well report, really bro, we don't need douchebags here so chill out and don't be one.

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/interna ... -exclusion

John Bingham · Post by **John Bingham** » Sat May 01, 2021 2:30 am

armchairlawyer wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:59 am
John Bingham wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:39 am
It depends on your nationality. I was never asked for one when getting my kid's EU passport. However some countries are much more strict, a friend from the UK had to get these done even though he had loads of photographs and documents to prove he was the father.
Are you sure it was the UK in your friend's case? My understanding is that the UK cannot insist on DNA evidence and in fact will usually decline to accept it if it is volunteered. They do insist on a lot of documentation of all other kinds, however.

Yes, it definitely was, and he moved to England with his family since. This was a bit before that though, and resulted in him having to leave the kid in Cambodia while the rest of the family holidayed the UK. It wasn't too bad, we did our best to look out for the kid and his dad took him on a solo trip there a few months later. I wasn't surprised, as I've often heard about the UK foreign service being twats, and these are most likely policies that come from above.
Similarly to what others have noted though, my kid looks very like me and local people are often surprised when he speaks fluent Khmer (as well as English) and has to explain that his mother is Cambodian. Nobody has ever doubted that he was my kid, his mother used to get quite pissed off when people assumed she was his nanny and not his mother! My friend I was referring to has kids that look much more Cambodian than white, so that might have caused an issue with some busy-body xenophobic immigration official for the UK.

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