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another excuse for tea a money?
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Multipox wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:04 am another excuse for tea a money?
Why is it an excuse for tea money?
It is not the Khmer police forcing you to get a police check.
It is your country asking for the police check.

If you go home and want to work with kids, you will need a police check from every country you have lived for the past X years.
No plan to work with kids? But maybe you rent the house next to a school or kindergarten, you may need for that. Or if you are going to be doing maintenance, in any field, and you get a call to do a job at a school. You will need a police check.

Nothing to do with tea.
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Username Taken wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:19 am
Nothing to do with tea.
but maybe the tea leaves were picked by kids.

you forgot that.
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willyhilly wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:37 pm Help! The Embassy just told me that I need a Khmer Police Report as does my partner before the visa process can be finalised. After nearly two years of going through the process this is a shock.
Has anyone done it? How much has to be paid to expedite it? I know where I lived all those years, but I have no proof. Does it have to go Sangkat by Sangkat or is there a central data base?
Silly question but I live in hope.
I was actually thinking of getting one from the FBI in the United States, but this is in advance of obtaining residency or citizenship in a country other than in Cambodia, so criminal record check, more than likely they would just exclude felonies but im not sure, ive never been fingerprinted by the FBI or any police agency so my name wouldnt come up. Bad news is that by mail the results take 12 weeks, thats crazy, but you can submit it online and get the results in 5 days, however what the FBI told me was that you cannot do that online overseas only within the USA at background check companies, hence i may go to Hawaii, get that done and take the results with me to some other country where i intend to purchase property to reside in via a residency or citizenship program. The embassy told me that someone at the cambodian police force could take my prints and send them to the fbi if i intended to wait for the mail here. quite a hassle.
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Be careful when you get the check, any police check , as it is usually only valid for six months. You cannot get a police check and use it in 12 months.
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I work in an industry that requires a Police record just about every time you change role, company, operating base, or shoes.

Different countries do things differently, through different departments. The UK call it the Disclosure Certificate (through the DBS). Many countries do these things through the local police. It’s just a fact of life in some circumstances.

Yesterday, I took my newly prepared residence certificate, self and passport to the Ministry of Justice, which is conveniently located on sisowath, just south of many folks’ happy hour $0.75 hydration locations, and opposite what was (is?) the visitors centre.
PSD-kiwi wrote: Applicants should have the following documents:
    •   A completed application form. This form can be obtained at the Criminal Office;
    •   One photograph (size 4cm x 6cm);
    •   A bio-information form;
    •   A copy of the biographical page of the passport;
    •   Copies of the first and last Cambodian visas showing dates of arrival. 
    •   A Residence Certification Letter * from the commune (sangkat) office where the applicant resides and/or resided whilst in Cambodia.
The counter staff will prepare the form for a $5 processing fee.
The normal turnaround is 20 working days. Cost $72.50
Expedited turnaround is 12 working days. Cost $140.00
Cash only.

By comparison, the UK basic disclosure is £18, and was prepared in 24hrs. Sadly, of no use, this time, as I’m making an application for a visa with an embassy located in Phnom Penh.

I was in and out in under 45minutes
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Well, in true Khmer bureaucratic fashion, they screwed up the form.

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This is the final certified English translation of the same certificate in Khmer. This is what will be issued, if you need a police record/certification. So, to help future applicants in avoiding such things, I’ve blanked out my personal details, obviously.

I think the issues come from the several step process.

A helpful clerk at the front desk will fill in the Khmer language data form. Printed form, handwritten entries. $5, thank you. There is no English language version of the form. My Khmer reading still isn’t up to snuff, yet.

Then, this will be used to generate a further form, which is done on a computer, English language entries for me, but a Khmer language form.

Then, this will be used to generate the final form, in Khmer, which will then be translated into English.

They want to know details about the applicant.
Name, gender, nationality, date of birth, address, occupation
The applicants father
Name, date of birth, original nationality, current nationality, country of birth
The applicants mother
Name, date of birth, original nationality, current nationality, country of birth
The applicants spouse
Name, date of birth, original nationality, current nationality, country of birth

What did they get wrong?

My occupation. It wasn’t even asked originally, so I think they just filled in a standard response, and listed me as a teacher. (all barang are teachers, no) Not helpful.
My address. A little bit.
My mothers first name. It’s difficult for most people in any language, but you’d think; just copy what’s on the form!?
And her nationality.

Between the several stages of writing, and copying, and transposing, and computer entries, and maybe having Spelling check and automatic field entries (I’m surmising), the cumulative errors can build up. And the result is a wrong certificate, 4 times, no less.

PSD_Kiwi hasn’t had an issue with this, so maybe they just don’t like me. Understandable. They were awfully cagey when I asked to look over the original forms, and very quick to agree to correct the problem.

There’s a thread elsewhere on another channel where someone enquired about the police record, from overseas. Knowing what will be in the final certificate is useful in knowing what information they should need up front. Forewarned and forearmed and all that.
I’ve not done this in Cambodia, previously, so it’s a bit of a learning process.
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@Freightdog, just another thought, it is possible that their translation from the Khmer is just horrible, maybe the details which are incorrect on the English translation are actually correct on the Khmer version....but then again, probably not. Hope they rectify your certificate quickly.

Like you, every time I change companies or contracts, as well as annually with my current company, I am required to provide a Police Clearance/CRC from my country of residence, I guess I have been lucky all these years with my Cambodian Police Checks as I've never had any issues like what you experienced, touch wood as it's time for me to get a new one when I get back.
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This is the final certified English translation of the same CERTIFICATE in Khmer.

TYPO alert.
I wonder if a helpful mod could edit my last post for clarity?
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PSD-Kiwi wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:38 pm @Freightdog, just another thought, it is possible that their translation from the Khmer is just horrible, maybe the details which are incorrect on the English translation are actually correct on the Khmer version....but then again, probably not. Hope they rectify your certificate quickly.
I had thought that, and in some cases it’s true. My Khmer reading skills are at infant level at best, however, some things are simply a cockup.

British was listed as nationality for my self and both parents, whereas it should be Irish for my mother. The first issued certificate didn’t even include the Khmer version, so I don’t know.
My mother’s name is a typically unpronounceable Gaelic name. The interpretation wasn’t even a word in either language.

Sadly, this certificate is for a work visa in a country that has equally irritating requirements, and anality. Hopefully, I can blag my way through the rest of the issues.
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