Neighbour bitten by my dog.

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:29 am

Queef wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:39 am Dogs don't bite in civilized countries Come on man...
There are two pieces of shit dogs on my street (I live on a cul-de-sac. Can't avoid the fuckers). They've tried to bite me several times while the owners were outside drinking beer. The whole ordeal seems to amuse the owners and their beer drinking buddies. Watching me defending myself against two potentially sick dogs is like watching an episode of Benny Hill to them. Every damn time.

I now walk down the street with a machete. The owners put the dogs inside their property whenever they see me. Ain't nobody laughing no more.

If I do get bitten one day, who should I talk to? Can I press charges? I'm sure the police would be absolutely useless. What are the other options? Would killing the two dogs as preemptive measure get me in some kind of trouble? I love dogs but these two are my archenemies. I wanna chop off their heads and personally hand the severed heads to the owners.

As we were moving into our last premises one of the dogs in the lane took to chasing me as I was driving the tuktuk, trying to bite at my leg. Same deal, the owners were sat out the front laughing as though it was a Benny Hill episode. I locked it up, jumped out and chased the dog back to it's owners, trying to kick a lesson into it as it had already had several goes at others in my clan. The laughing got louder when I told them if the dog bit me or one of mine I'd kill it ... and then (I must be a violent bugger, based on recent posts) I'd come after them for not controlling their dog. Even more laughter, until a schoolgirl in the house realised what I was saying and that I was 100% serious, and got panicky about the safety of her family. The dog was carefully kept away from me after that.

I honestly struggle to understand a people group that think it's entertaining to watch their own dogs literally attack other humans, and rip up other animals. I understand the dog's behaviour, I don't understand the owners. That you have to threaten them personally with violence to break the behaviour bothers me. Ultimately the only way to stop the bullying is to be a bigger bully, which doesn't sit with my reasons for being here. I get that the national psyche was damaged by the genocide, but this is sub-human behaviour. I've been scolded by do-gooders for threatening nationals, but they don't have too many vicious dog attacks in the up-market boreys they inhabit.

To answer your question, you lodge a complaint at the sangkat office, and typically they will enforce that your medical costs are met and the owner of the dog cautioned, but probably won't destroy the dog. The dog will magically disappear for a time (to the village) and then be snuck back into your environment.

Edit: Oh, and to answer your other question - if a Khmer kills another's dog, there are harsh words and a bit of stink eye for a while. If a foreigner kills a Khmer's dog and is seen to be doing so, you'll have the local cops bashing your gate, supposedly to tell you off but actually looking for tea-money. Source: I had long conversations on this exact point with the landlord and a couple of Khmer mates. Acting in self-defence is fine though, so perhaps be pre-emptively prepared and encourage one to go you.

khmerhamster · Post by **khmerhamster** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:30 pm

explorer wrote:Learning Khmer may help prevent you getting bitten by a dog. I have been told by Cambodian people not to go any further down a path as there is an aggressive dog further along, which has bitten other people.

This is an excellent point.

@explorer do you speak Khmer?

I recommend the phrase ជំរាបសួរឆ្កែតូចសូមកុំខាំខ្ញុំ

Arget · Post by **Arget** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:36 pm

khmerhamster wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:30 pm
explorer wrote:Learning Khmer may help prevent you getting bitten by a dog. I have been told by Cambodian people not to go any further down a path as there is an aggressive dog further along, which has bitten other people.
This is an excellent point.

@explorer do you speak Khmer?

I recommend the phrase ជំរាបសួរឆ្កែតូចសូមកុំខាំខ្ញុំ

I also note you have been told many things on CEO but you don't take any notice so I would expect you have been bitten many times.

Spigzy · Post by **Spigzy** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:43 pm

Queef wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:39 am If I do get bitten one day, who should I talk to? Can I press charges? I'm sure the police would be absolutely useless. What are the other options? Would killing the two dogs as preemptive measure get me in some kind of trouble? I love dogs but these two are my archenemies. I wanna chop off their heads and personally hand the severed heads to the owners.

I assume you have the vaccines already, so let's skip that bit.

Follow the dog back to its house.
Wait for cover of darkness (optional).
Kill the dog.
Kill the owners. Not just the men, but the women. And the Children.
Kill the neighbours, just to be safe. They're like animals, slaughter them like animals.
Find the local village meth-head/glue-sniffer/nut-job* & give him the murder weapon, minus your fingerprints. ("samurai" sword suggested).
Call the police.

*- if you can find a village "sorcerer", this can also work, but takes a bit more effort & they might accidentally turn you into a newt.

taabarang · Post by **taabarang** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:47 pm

"I also note you have been told many things on CEO but you don't take any notice so I would expect you have been bitten many times.

He's been bitten numerous times on this forum.

'Learning Khmer may help prevent you getting bitten by a dog. "

We just hit a new low

Duncan · Post by **Duncan** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:08 pm

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whiteribbon · Post by **whiteribbon** » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:40 pm

fax wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:46 am I would do a full round of rabies shots too if it was me that got bit. You think I'm going to risk my life just because you love your cute little Fido and don't think he can get bit by a rat or a bat in his sleep?

I KNOW the dog is not sick. Well that's assuring!

Maybe stop letting your dog loose unattended.

Can I remind you that even Pasteur posted this:

"Message to the public

Recently, there has been a very high increase of number of patients seeking for rabies post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP) at the Institut Pasteur du Cambodge (IPC) and it is observed that a number of them has been wounded by dog or cat long time ago and know that the animal is alive healthy more than 10 days after causing the wound. In this case, the animal did not have nor transmit rabies to the victims and rabies PEP is not necessary. (Reference: WHO Technical Report Series No. 1012, 2018; accessible via https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/han ... g.pdf?ua=1).
Medical staff at the Rabies Prevention Center of IPC always assess this point and explain the reasons to the people seeking for PEP at IPC.
They will give consultation to all patients, one by one, and give prescription of vaccination to those who really meet the indication of rabies PEP."

All the dogs are loose here in the countryside. Maybe read my initial post again. Mine is not aggressive or sick at all, he knows her well, she only got a bit because she tried to pull apart 2 dogs fighting over a bitch. It was not personal. And also I tried everything to get her the medicine she wanted and even drove to PP with her. Your implication that I'm not a responsible dog owner is unfounded.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/expatsc ... 058066339/

mike75 · Post by **mike75** » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:58 pm

explorer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:27 pm Muslims dont have dogs

There's a valid reason for that. Dogs, like pigs, are considered unclean because, like pigs, they eat shit, they roll around in it and then they reek of it.

I can certainly understand why they don't keep dogs.

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:16 pm

whiteribbon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:40 pm
fax wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:46 am I would do a full round of rabies shots too if it was me that got bit. You think I'm going to risk my life just because you love your cute little Fido and don't think he can get bit by a rat or a bat in his sleep?

I KNOW the dog is not sick. Well that's assuring!

Maybe stop letting your dog loose unattended.
Can I remind you that even Pasteur posted this:

"Message to the public

Recently, there has been a very high increase of number of patients seeking for rabies post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP) at the Institut Pasteur du Cambodge (IPC) and it is observed that a number of them has been wounded by dog or cat long time ago and know that the animal is alive healthy more than 10 days after causing the wound. In this case, the animal did not have nor transmit rabies to the victims and rabies PEP is not necessary. (Reference: WHO Technical Report Series No. 1012, 2018; accessible via https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/han ... g.pdf?ua=1).
Medical staff at the Rabies Prevention Center of IPC always assess this point and explain the reasons to the people seeking for PEP at IPC.
They will give consultation to all patients, one by one, and give prescription of vaccination to those who really meet the indication of rabies PEP."

All the dogs are loose here in the countryside. Maybe read my initial post again. Mine is not aggressive or sick at all, he knows her well, she only got a bit because she tried to pull apart 2 dogs fighting over a bitch. It was not personal. And also I tried everything to get her the medicine she wanted and even drove to PP with her. Your implication that I'm not a responsible dog owner is unfounded.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/expatsc ... 058066339/

You know what the real problem is?

A dog bites me. The owner will ensure me the dog is fine, no rabies.

Big chance it's true, so I don't take my shots.

Nine days later, the dog dies. I didn't take my shots. Now what?

Of course, in 9*% of the cases the dog is not infected, but when the dog is biting, we DO NOT KNOW YET. Have to wait 10 days to be sure, right?

You are using hindsight info now, if a Cambodian dog bites you, get your shots. Period. Even if it's your dog. Fuck, even if my own dog bit me I would get my shots.

Post by **Freightdog** » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:41 pm

Slightly off topic, but I'm slightly intrigued by the view that muslims don't keep dogs.
I discussed this with the other half who confirmed this thinking that muslims don't keep dogs. I'm intrigued because I know of a great many muslims (not in Cambodia) who not only keep dogs as pets, but in many cases have many dogs, not just one.

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