Know any builder team who can do Khmer wooden houses?
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Hi Samrong, I'm going to do it with traditional Khmer techniques, but with some modernised add-ons like insolation in wall, treatment of wood. You know what, I'm in Siem Reap for two days just by chance, if you see this comment on time, could you leave me a contact so that we might meet up to have a chat and a look at your houses.samrong01 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:08 am I have a team of guys who can build khmer style houses in Siem Reap. I can show you two wooden houses they have built recently. Bear in mind however that a real Khmer wooden house is a fairly dodgy construction. Are you looking for a more modernized khmer style house? It can be done very cheaply - they are doing one at present (but with steel framing) for around $3,000.
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Get your wood at a legal depot, or another person with the authority to sell wood, if you don't have a receipt (from depot or village chief) the police might (will?) extort you for using illegal wood.
When you buy the wood, bring someone who knows his stuff. Seller will claim it's a certain kind of wood (beeng [extremely rare these days], thnong [very rare now] etc etc) but it might be another (cheaper) kind. Also the age of the wood is important. Wood nowadays comes from younger trees, thus the wood being of lesser quality.
Wood is typically sold per M3. Typical prices here in the Northeast are 300-400 USD per M3 for decent wood (less for the wood used to poor concrete).
Measure the wood yourself and do your math, then compare with the number the seller comes with. Might be a difference....
When you buy the wood, bring someone who knows his stuff. Seller will claim it's a certain kind of wood (beeng [extremely rare these days], thnong [very rare now] etc etc) but it might be another (cheaper) kind. Also the age of the wood is important. Wood nowadays comes from younger trees, thus the wood being of lesser quality.
Wood is typically sold per M3. Typical prices here in the Northeast are 300-400 USD per M3 for decent wood (less for the wood used to poor concrete).
Measure the wood yourself and do your math, then compare with the number the seller comes with. Might be a difference....
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Hi Kammekor, that's very helpful information.Kammekor wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:47 am Get your wood at a legal depot, or another person with the authority to sell wood, if you don't have a receipt (from depot or village chief) the police might (will?) extort you for using illegal wood.
When you buy the wood, bring someone who knows his stuff. Seller will claim it's a certain kind of wood (beeng [extremely rare these days], thnong [very rare now] etc etc) but it might be another (cheaper) kind. Also the age of the wood is important. Wood nowadays comes from younger trees, thus the wood being of lesser quality.
Wood is typically sold per M3. Typical prices here in the Northeast are 300-400 USD per M3 for decent wood (less for the wood used to poor concrete).
Measure the wood yourself and do your math, then compare with the number the seller comes with. Might be a difference....
I was planning to mainly use old wood from dismantled old houses, but still will need to buy some new for the columns and beams as large pieces of reclaimed wood more or less have flaws. Went to the wood market in PP the other day, the cheapest hardwood costs higher than decent wood in your region. Share more with us your knowledge, about wood species and their current prices and status, also about reclaimed wood. I'm very interested.
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Francis Garnier, the leader of the French Mekong Expedition claimed that Cambodian houses were not built on stilts because of the flooding, but because of " the pestillence of tigers, rhinos and elephants"peacock777 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:37 amWill do. Going to start land filling next week, as I was told by my neighbour villagers that the Mekong can flood and my land can be under water by half a meter, not very good news.SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:04 pm Please keep us posted on how it goes, 777.
Interesting topic.
But it would serve both purposes.
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Monsieur Garnier did make sense though, I'd rather put up with some water than with mosquitos and bugsSternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:11 amFrancis Garnier, the leader of the French Mekong Expedition claimed that Cambodian houses were not built on stilts because of the flooding, but because of " the pestillence of tigers, rhinos and elephants"peacock777 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:37 amWill do. Going to start land filling next week, as I was told by my neighbour villagers that the Mekong can flood and my land can be under water by half a meter, not very good news.SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:04 pm Please keep us posted on how it goes, 777.
Interesting topic.
But it would serve both purposes.
I always tried to be correct, not politically correct.
Re: Know any builder team who can do Khmer wooden houses?
I found that the word used for the unit of measurement regarding the sale of wood (timber) is called a "Kip". and it is near too a M3 Cubic metre, I will tell you a situation regarding the measurements and costs, I found some wood in a timber yard in Battambang. the timber measurement (for example) 5m x 100mm x 200mm per length was priced at $10. So I wanted 10 length's of this timber, now my maths is not always good but that was an easy calculation 10 length's would cost me $100.Kammekor wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:47 am Get your wood at a legal depot, or another person with the authority to sell wood, if you don't have a receipt (from depot or village chief) the police might (will?) extort you for using illegal wood.
When you buy the wood, bring someone who knows his stuff. Seller will claim it's a certain kind of wood (beeng [extremely rare these days], thnong [very rare now] etc etc) but it might be another (cheaper) kind. Also the age of the wood is important. Wood nowadays comes from younger trees, thus the wood being of lesser quality.
Wood is typically sold per M3. Typical prices here in the Northeast are 300-400 USD per M3 for decent wood (less for the wood used to poor concrete).
Measure the wood yourself and do your math, then compare with the number the seller comes with. Might be a difference....
The Boss of the yard did is calculation, and the invoice showed me a total of $227.
Okay, again I asked how much is one length, he told me $10, so how much for 5 length's, he told me $50, so far so good, and how much for 10 length's I asked him again, $227, I must be missing something I thought to myself. I said I would take 5 length's and return tomorrow for 5 more. "I no sell you was his reply" he would not talk to me anymore, and had security escort me off site, telling me not to come back. It was a university student I was talking to, and telling him the tail, his father was also in the timber trade, he told me "Yes he understood why". It turned out the 10 length's = 1 Kip . the unit of measurement. Be aware of something like this! In our own countries it is more then likely a larger pack of timber would be the reverse, and be cheaper per length, has buying a single length would be more expensive.
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now I'm perfectly confused. Is wood selling business mafia-related always? You should have bought 9 instead.AndyKK wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:25 pmI found that the word used for the unit of measurement regarding the sale of wood (timber) is called a "Kip". and it is near too a M3 Cubic metre, I will tell you a situation regarding the measurements and costs, I found some wood in a timber yard in Battambang. the timber measurement (for example) 5m x 100mm x 200mm per length was priced at $10. So I wanted 10 length's of this timber, now my maths is not always good but that was an easy calculation 10 length's would cost me $100.Kammekor wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:47 am Get your wood at a legal depot, or another person with the authority to sell wood, if you don't have a receipt (from depot or village chief) the police might (will?) extort you for using illegal wood.
When you buy the wood, bring someone who knows his stuff. Seller will claim it's a certain kind of wood (beeng [extremely rare these days], thnong [very rare now] etc etc) but it might be another (cheaper) kind. Also the age of the wood is important. Wood nowadays comes from younger trees, thus the wood being of lesser quality.
Wood is typically sold per M3. Typical prices here in the Northeast are 300-400 USD per M3 for decent wood (less for the wood used to poor concrete).
Measure the wood yourself and do your math, then compare with the number the seller comes with. Might be a difference....
The Boss of the yard did is calculation, and the invoice showed me a total of $227.
Okay, again I asked how much is one length, he told me $10, so how much for 5 length's, he told me $50, so far so good, and how much for 10 length's I asked him again, $227, I must be missing something I thought to myself. I said I would take 5 length's and return tomorrow for 5 more. "I no sell you was his reply" he would not talk to me anymore, and had security escort me off site, telling me not to come back. It was a university student I was talking to, and telling him the tail, his father was also in the timber trade, he told me "Yes he understood why". It turned out the 10 length's = 1 Kip . the unit of measurement. Be aware of something like this! In our own countries it is more then likely a larger pack of timber would be the reverse, and be cheaper per length, has buying a single length would be more expensive.
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Re: Know any builder team who can do Khmer wooden houses?
'kib' is a measurement for volume. My guess is a lot was lost in translation during this transaction.peacock777 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:20 pmnow I'm perfectly confused. Is wood selling business mafia-related always? You should have bought 9 instead.AndyKK wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:25 pmI found that the word used for the unit of measurement regarding the sale of wood (timber) is called a "Kip". and it is near too a M3 Cubic metre, I will tell you a situation regarding the measurements and costs, I found some wood in a timber yard in Battambang. the timber measurement (for example) 5m x 100mm x 200mm per length was priced at $10. So I wanted 10 length's of this timber, now my maths is not always good but that was an easy calculation 10 length's would cost me $100.Kammekor wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:47 am Get your wood at a legal depot, or another person with the authority to sell wood, if you don't have a receipt (from depot or village chief) the police might (will?) extort you for using illegal wood.
When you buy the wood, bring someone who knows his stuff. Seller will claim it's a certain kind of wood (beeng [extremely rare these days], thnong [very rare now] etc etc) but it might be another (cheaper) kind. Also the age of the wood is important. Wood nowadays comes from younger trees, thus the wood being of lesser quality.
Wood is typically sold per M3. Typical prices here in the Northeast are 300-400 USD per M3 for decent wood (less for the wood used to poor concrete).
Measure the wood yourself and do your math, then compare with the number the seller comes with. Might be a difference....
The Boss of the yard did is calculation, and the invoice showed me a total of $227.
Okay, again I asked how much is one length, he told me $10, so how much for 5 length's, he told me $50, so far so good, and how much for 10 length's I asked him again, $227, I must be missing something I thought to myself. I said I would take 5 length's and return tomorrow for 5 more. "I no sell you was his reply" he would not talk to me anymore, and had security escort me off site, telling me not to come back. It was a university student I was talking to, and telling him the tail, his father was also in the timber trade, he told me "Yes he understood why". It turned out the 10 length's = 1 Kip . the unit of measurement. Be aware of something like this! In our own countries it is more then likely a larger pack of timber would be the reverse, and be cheaper per length, has buying a single length would be more expensive.
Longer and thicker pieces of wood have a higher price per volume than their shorter / thinner counterparts.
For instance a massive piece of wood measuring 1 meter x 1 meter x 20 cm is worth the price of 1 M3 of regular wooden planks, maybe even more.
The price per M3 depends mainly on the quality of the wood, the length and the thickness of the pieces.
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Sorry did not see your message until just now. If you are still in Siem Reap you can call me at 069961428. I am free most of the day and can bring you to see the houses. Note that I only have moto - no car. Dont worry too much about the wood, its pretty easy to find old wood in Siem Reap - dont know about elsewhere.peacock777 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:41 amHi Samrong, I'm going to do it with traditional Khmer techniques, but with some modernised add-ons like insolation in wall, treatment of wood. You know what, I'm in Siem Reap for two days just by chance, if you see this comment on time, could you leave me a contact so that we might meet up to have a chat and a look at your houses.samrong01 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:08 am I have a team of guys who can build khmer style houses in Siem Reap. I can show you two wooden houses they have built recently. Bear in mind however that a real Khmer wooden house is a fairly dodgy construction. Are you looking for a more modernized khmer style house? It can be done very cheaply - they are doing one at present (but with steel framing) for around $3,000.
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Re: Know any builder team who can do Khmer wooden houses?
Out of curiosity, would anyone have the figures that general labourers/semi skilled workers earn, per week or month, on the building sites?
We’ve been putting some plans and ideas together, and I have a rough outline of what I’d like to build on a small plot of land.
We’ve been putting some plans and ideas together, and I have a rough outline of what I’d like to build on a small plot of land.
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