I was reading and I found that any overstay of over 30 days is automatic deportation. So if that is so I believe trying to get another visa and pay the overstay fine is a no go. So it sounds like it would be best to show up at the airport with cash in hand.

If I am wrong someone please correct me.

John Bingham wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:17 pm

Kenr wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:49 pm I was reading and I found that any overstay of over 30 days is automatic deportation. So if that is so I believe trying to get another visa and pay the overstay fine is a no go. So it sounds like it would be best to show up at the airport with cash in hand.

If I am wrong someone please correct me.

That might work, but it's not at all clear whether this person has any funds to travel abroad, and is seemingly under the impression that the $5 a day is still in effect when it was changed to $10 way back. I would not advise just turning up at the airport, even if they have a few thousand spare. They could easily be pulled and miss their flight. They need to get an agent and/or talk to the immigration department. They will likely not get any discount but the fact that they owned up to their stupidity and offered to pay will go in their favor.

I agree playing nice will go a long way, but from what I understand, according to their rules, which of course means nothing, they will detain you on the spot outside the airport for anything over 30-days, because, again according to their rules, which may not mean anything, you cannot get another visa.

I would turn up to the immigration office next to the airport with 450.00 and play dumb. I doubt it will work, but it might be worth a shot. I would also bring another 450.00 tucked in my back pocket. Sometimes in life when you screw up, you just need to own it.

Lonestar wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:45 pm I would turn up to the immigration office next to the airport with 450.00 and play dumb. I doubt it will work, but it might be worth a shot. I would also bring another 450.00 tucked in my back pocket. Sometimes in life when you screw up, you just need to own it.

But why would they give you a pass when your exit depends on them ? They've seen enough over the years to patiently wait that you quit the "dumb" mode and enter the "let's scrap all my pockets, atm cards, family, friends, acquaintances" mode, until you come up with the exact requested amount.
They have little choice on this :
- You will go there randomly, therefore there will be probably several witnesses to your arrival, explanation, negociation, etc...So not just one people to bribe, if they were dumb enough to accept a bribe in such an introduction.
- They don't want that kind of gossip going around afterwise, immigration positions are good ones, they won't compromise their positions in such a cheap and obvious way.
- You won't have any alternative, except jail + ban, and they're very aware of it, and it's not like they will pity you, a healthy white man pretending to have money issues but not paying attention to the well known basic immigration regulations such as "don't do overstay".

The only way would be to justify a dead angle of the law, without blaming them for any technical fault, with time, proof, and a gentleman behavior all along. That or a small miracle. Do you believe in immigration's officers miracles ?
This case isn't in any dead angle, it's a basic mistake of the OP, that won't go away making these eyes anyway ^^


Sorry that the bad new is also the most realistic one, but no free meal, no santa claus in this world where you're a guest.

I know 1 or 2 people who have overstayed longer than that and negotiated a discount when they paid it off but that was a couple years ago maybe things have changed.

Gary Small wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:59 am I know 1 or 2 people who have overstayed longer than that and negotiated a discount when they paid it off but that was a couple years ago maybe things have changed.

"Longer than that" means more money, how much was the discount ? How long was the overstay ?
Did it involve an unofficial enveloppe, or an official discount ?
Just curious.

Ghostwriter wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:19 am

Gary Small wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:59 am I know 1 or 2 people who have overstayed longer than that and negotiated a discount when they paid it off but that was a couple years ago maybe things have changed.

"Longer than that" means more money, how much was the discount ? How long was the overstay ?
Did it involve an unofficial enveloppe, or an official discount ?
Just curious.

It was over 6 months his girlfriend negotiated for him through her family, but it was more than $500 discount.
One thing is for sure it wasn't at the airport.

Gary Small wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:17 am It was over 6 months his girlfriend negotiated for him through her family, but it was more than $500 discount.
One thing is for sure it wasn't at the airport.

I see...
So yeah, squeezed to the max through her family, in a live phone session from the office i suppose, without much room for improvisation.
With a variable discount to adjust to how much is available.

Quite a low moment in one's life when one has to call the family for financial support, due to reasons embarassing enough to explain.

One can always choose cheaper beer, cheaper food, cheaper accomodation, cheaper girls, cheaper drugs...but there isn't any cheaper documentation than the one requested, and everybody needs to get out at some point, so, first things first, always.

It's already quite a cheap life there anyway, so, one need to check if he can actually afford cheap, if not, retreat in the motherland before the window closes itself. Or be trapped.

I think you get to negotiate when you're in immigration jail waiting deportation. You don't have funds for the full amount, so they see how much you can come up with via phone calls home during the cockroach sagas. Not necessarily relevant to OP's situation.
A friend in the know told me that the immigration jail guys don't want the paperwork involved in deportation, and broke troublemakers are often taken to the border and discreetly pushed into Thailand.