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Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote:Why are you buying the bike? Is it for you, or one of your girlfriends? If I'm not mistaken, your only here 4 months per year or so, so you should consider bike storage and all that. A drained battery every time you get back, corrosion (unless you properly drain fuel and prep the carb). Seems like a lot of trouble if not being driven year round. Rental or used might be a better alternative.
Good point! I'm sure if it was for a gf he would be asking about zoomers or scoopys though! :D I've gone through this many a times when going back home for a few months every year, coming back to a bike covered in grime even when locked in a shed, half flat tires that give out when filled up, dead battery like you mentioned, shit gas etc. Although if you're not lackadaisical like me it's easily preventable if you buy a biike cover and pull the battery out, and better yet store it inside. I'd say eight months is the cutoff point, if you're here longer it's worth it to keep the bike and the bother of finding some storage, if not buy used and sell or just rent. Then again I paid six months rent on my place this year while away travelling just cause I was too lazy to sell or put in storage all my shite (except one MSX I sold off).
You just reminded me about the Zoomer X. You can buy a Chjinese one here for $800 new. The Korean (?) ones are $1200 iirc. Both versions sold at GAC garage just past the Waterpark on Russian B. They also do credit deals. %20 down.

EDIT Apparently the $1200 one is made in Taiwan, not Korea. What are Taiwanese bikes like in general?
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I've run a Yamaha Jupiter for the last three years and has been really good!
How are those for parts? One of my favourite bikes in TH was the Yammy Nouvo 135cc, but I never bothered here as it would seem a hassle to get it fixed. The Jupiter and the Sirius are a little more common though in KH.
Not had a problem, always had the parts I needed but admittedly I didn't need much. Bought it new from Yamaha Town near Olympic Stadium back 2012, and get it serviced there virtually every month, they always do a good job and I generally only pay for oil and filter. Around 22000 km I changed the pads, plug, chain and sprockets, and one time changed a wing mirror mounting bracket, which I had managed to break, all bits were in stock.
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I've run a Yamaha Jupiter for the last three years and has been really good!
How are those for parts? One of my favourite bikes in TH was the Yammy Nouvo 135cc, but I never bothered here as it would seem a hassle to get it fixed. The Jupiter and the Sirius are a little more common though in KH.
Not had a problem, always had the parts I needed but admittedly I didn't need much. Bought it new from Yamaha Town near Olympic Stadium back 2012, and get it serviced there virtually every month, they always do a good job and I generally only pay for oil and filter. Around 22000 km I changed the pads, plug, chain and sprockets, and one time changed a wing mirror mounting bracket, which I had managed to break, all bits were in stock.
As opposed to a Viet Wave. I have had it since 17,000 K. Brake pads are still good as. Only thing I needed apart from the top end rebuild at 50,000 k ($35) is a couple of links taken out of the chain and an oil change. Should do them every month I'm told, but I do them every six months. Honda are amazing. Even Viet ones.
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juansweetpotato wrote: As opposed to a Viet Wave. I have had it since 17,000 K. Brake pads are still good as. Only thing I needed apart from the top end rebuild at 50,000 k ($35) is a couple of links taken out of the chain and an oil change. Should do them every month I'm told, but I do them every six months. Honda are amazing. Even Viet ones.
I have done about 32,000, since new with no issues. I changed the sprockets as a matter of course. Personally I would not be trusting a chain after 25,000ks. If you're having to remove links I would regard the chain as definitely fucked and I wouldn't be using it. Chain breaks can make an awful mess, and of you sometimes. Of course the life of disk brake pads depends on how hard you drive. The bike gets ridden very hard and I reckon 22000k is pretty good.

The oil in air cooled engines does a lot of work, particularly if you're driving a lot at high revs and so I change it every 1000ks and use good quality semi synthetic oil. I change oil filters every 3000, plugs at 12000 and air filters twice a year (beginning and end of dry season).

Nothing against Honda, they make good racing bikes and I had a CBR around 15 years ago that I used to go down to Kampong Som on. However as traffic got worse I sold it and got something smaller for around town.
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Kuroneko wrote:
juansweetpotato wrote: As opposed to a Viet Wave. I have had it since 17,000 K. Brake pads are still good as. Only thing I needed apart from the top end rebuild at 50,000 k ($35) is a couple of links taken out of the chain and an oil change. Should do them every month I'm told, but I do them every six months. Honda are amazing. Even Viet ones.
I have done about 32,000, since new with no issues. I changed the sprockets as a matter of course. Personally I would not be trusting a chain after 25,000ks. If you're having to remove links I would regard the chain as definitely fucked and I wouldn't be using it. Chain breaks can make an awful mess, and of you sometimes. Of course the life of disk brake pads depends on how hard you drive. The bike gets ridden very hard and I reckon 22000k is pretty good.

The oil in air cooled engines does a lot of work, particularly if you're driving a lot at high revs and so I change it every 1000ks and use good quality semi synthetic oil. I change oil filters every 3000, plugs at 12000 and air filters twice a year (beginning and end of dry season).

Nothing against Honda, they make good racing bikes and I had a CBR around 15 years ago that I used to go down to Kampong Som on. However as traffic got worse I sold it and got something smaller for around town.
All good advice. You keep your moto in top order I see. I opened up my carb last year and was pleasantly surprised that it was spotless.
I forgot that, as a matter of course, I changed the sparkplug twice since I got it. $1 a NGK in Vietnam.

I guess it's down to the fuel consumption then. I heard Yamaha can be a bit thirsty? Also, isn't there something about an electrical problem? Maybe just on the older models (4 years +).
I have had 2 Yamaha proper motorbikes in my life and I like them in general.

Nb I have always taken a link or 2 out and never had a chain break on me yet, but I will get the chain and sprockets replaced very soon. I think I was quoted around the $20 mark. I'm sure Honda genuine parts are a lot more, which is why I decided to just stick with the old one for a while.

May just buy a KTM though. Anybody heard anything good or bad about them?
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You guys amaze me when it comes to moppets maintenance :good:
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Barang_doa_slae wrote:You guys amaze me when it comes to moppets maintenance :good:
You French with your special tools. :thumb: My mates D Super was misfiring, so I opened up the bonnet and found I needed a spark plug spanner about 2 feet long! Brilliant cars though.

I suppose you strip the whole engine down every 10,000 k and clean the internal oil filter etc.
If you can supply me with a link to a workshop manual for the Wave 100/110, I''ll do it myself too.
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juansweetpotato wrote:
Barang_doa_slae wrote:You guys amaze me when it comes to moppets maintenance :good:
You French with your special tools. :thumb: My mates D Super was misfiring, so I opened up the bonnet and found I needed a spark plug spanner about 2 feet long! Brilliant cars though.

I suppose you strip the whole engine down every 10,000 k and clean the internal oil filter etc.
If you can supply me with a link to a workshop manual for the Wave 100/110, I''ll do it myself too.
Did you think I was being sarcastic ?

While I always followed strict maintenance rule for my fragile high output flat turbo four car (a painful subject since it is as crippled as I am now, long awaiting a bangkok specialist visit).

I might only have changed oil in my 25k km 2008 air blade, half a dozen times only. Usually thanks to being reminded.
Hence it is my father in law who manages my wife's 2000 something corolla maintenance schedule.

I know I should care more but few engines excite me enough to raise my awareness up to care enough level.
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Did you think I was being sarcastic ?
Yep. I thought you were like Petrol Head or somebody. I've always loved to take things to bits myself.Just have to make sure I'm not too stoned when I do it.
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Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote:Why are you buying the bike? Is it for you, or one of your girlfriends? If I'm not mistaken, your only here 4 months per year or so, so you should consider bike storage and all that. A drained battery every time you get back, corrosion (unless you properly drain fuel and prep the carb). Seems like a lot of trouble if not being driven year round. Rental or used might be a better alternative.
im here 6-8 months of the year, 4 months in England, this time i may stick around longer,
i dont mind renting a brand new Airblade, but id prefer a geared bike now
hence this topic

now rental bikes have all had to get plated up/registered and what not, renting bikes isnt as cheap as it used to be either
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