Investments in foreign casinos have been illegal for Chinese nationals since August. You are just seeing the inertia of projects already in play.
Investments in hotels and resorts are discouraged by official state policy,but not prohibited as yet.

superferret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:02 pmOk first of all, America did not do Pattaya, it was the Thais who sold themselves out to the US soldiers to an extent no other nations ever did. Were they forced to prostitute themselves? Of course not.

LOL, so Murika sets up a shore leave base, turn it into a brothel, and you blame the host country for accepting it? Tell me, what do you think would have happened if they had said No? Hint: bombs, from schmuck Henry and Tricky Dicky

superferret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:02 pmYou can't compare that to Sihanoukville. Sihanoukville is the premier beach destination of a country, and it has the potential to develop into a family friendly international recognized resort for Cambodia, instead of a backwater for Chinese casinos, chinese guys cheating on their wives, and illegal gambling.

Pattaya was also a beach destination, admittedly not so developed. If you really cared about family-friendly-shit, you would be whining about the bars and what Murika did in Pattaya. You don't. You're upset because the Chinese raised the prices in Sinville, and you were forced out.

This is a classic malaise of unfettered capitalism, and guess which country perfected that diseased model? Yup, Murika.

Ah, so Pattaya is kosher if the yanks do it with Thai connivance, but Sinville is not if they do it with China? Sounds kind of inconsistent, bro.

superferret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:02 pmIF you spend some time here

bwahahaha, you have no idea...

superferret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:02 pmif you come here to open a business you should cater to either Khmers only or to Khmers+ the international community. That applies to any nationality in my view.

Hate to pop your bubble, but China is also part of the international community. In fact, if one were to base things purely on income and geography, one could argue that the Chinese have a bigger claim than Murika.

Is there any law or decree backing up your opinion as to how Khmers should run their country? No. Not one.

It's your opinion, based largely on your subjective views and your negative experience because you can no longer afford to stay there. Can you afford to stay in Vegas on the Strip, or in Beverly Hills? I doubt it.

Have you whined about that?

frank lee bent wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:07 pm Investments in foreign casinos have been illegal for Chinese nationals since August. You are just seeing the inertia of projects already in play.
Investments in hotels and resorts are discouraged by official state policy,but not prohibited as yet.

Cambodian backwater
Sihanoukville soars, but frenzied development could cloud resort's future

GEORGE STYLLIS, Contributing writer


The Jin Bei Casino hotel, which opened earlier this year, is one of Sihanoukville's newest properties targeting Chinese expats and tourists. (Photo by George Styllis)
SIHANOUKVILLE, Cambodia -- This southern coastal city is ringing to the sound of construction.

Chinese characters festoon supermarkets, shopfronts and tour agencies. Casinos have multiplied over the past year, towering awkwardly behind Sihanoukville's cheap hostels and burger vans. Chinese investors are pumping money into the city's property and gaming industries, transforming it from a backpacker retreat into a bustling "Chinatown."


In the past year, land prices in some prime spots have doubled as Chinese investors snap up plots for hotels, casinos and residential property, ...

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Econom ... -backwater

The recent and massive Chinese population influx is causing real problems for the low-income Khmers who are also getting evicted and losing their jobs. Many of them originally moved to Sihanoukville from the provinces with their families to make a better life. Now these are the people who are suffering the most.
Two Khmer families who live near us got told this week to leave their homes before the end of the month. Both families are now stuffed in one room. and they are having difficulty finding another place. Others are facing impossible rent hikes so they can stay where they are, because prices have gone silly.

Problems ahead for sure, bad feelings and conflict between populations. Everything is being done to ensure that local people feel hard done by, and resentment is growing against the newcomers (wrongly, because the Chinese workers are not responsible for the situation).
Development in Sihanoukville has been badly managed and is a shambles. It didn't have to be like this. Shame.

BTW Vlad, before you say another word about SHV today, you'd do well to see what you are talking about. Anyone who hasn't been here for 6 months doesn't have a clue. You cannot imagine how fast it's changing.
You go away for a few days, and when you get back they've built a 4-lane road out the front, a skyscraper out the back and a shopping mall on the cow paddock next door. I kid you not (or not much.)The road is already cracked and pitted from so many trucks, the skyscraper is sinking into the swamp, and the cows are shitting in the mall because where else can they shit ?

Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:08 pm The recent and massive Chinese population influx is causing real problems for the low-income Khmers who are also getting evicted and losing their jobs. Many of them originally moved to Sihanoukville from the provinces with their families to make a better life. Now these are the people who are suffering the most.
Two Khmer families who live near us got told this week to leave their homes before the end of the month. Both families are now stuffed in one room. and they are having difficulty finding another place. Others are facing impossible rent hikes so they can stay where they are, because prices have gone silly.

Problems ahead for sure, bad feelings and conflict between populations. Everything is being done to ensure that local people feel hard done by, and resentment is growing against the newcomers (wrongly, because the Chinese workers are not responsible for the situation).
Development in Sihanoukville has been badly managed and is a shambles. It didn't have to be like this. Shame.

BTW Vlad, before you say another word about SHV today, you'd do well to see what you are talking about. Anyone who hasn't been here for 6 months doesn't have a clue. You cannot imagine how fast it's changing.
You go away for a few days, and when you get back they've built a 4-lane road out the front, a skyscraper out the back and a shopping mall on the cow paddock next door. I kid you not (or not much.)The road is already cracked and pitted from so many trucks, the skyscraper is sinking into the swamp,


and the cows are shitting in the mall because where else can they shit ?

The Chinese always say there is money in shit.?

Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:08 pmBTW Vlad, before you say another word about SHV today, you'd do well to see what you are talking about. Anyone who hasn't been here for 6 months doesn't have a clue. You cannot imagine how fast it's changing.

I was there less than 6 months ago...May, iirc.

Sorry to let you down on that note.

I know how fast it's changing. I also don't like it. But that's simply because I don't like crowds/ built-up areas anywhere.

But I don't believe that simply because the Chinese are doing it that it's 'wrong'.

The Murikans created Pattaya, I'm sure it was quite nice and rural before.

What makes this so different, when Pattaya was so acceptable?

If you say you don't like it, i agree 100%. If you say it's unacceptable because the invaders are Chinese, then we need to talk about why.

Easy. Turn your phrase around. I'm saying that Chinese occupation or colonialism is no more acceptable than if it came from any other foreign power.
And May was a long time ago on the timeline here, really.

Without looking at the Western expat changes you should look at the changes for the average Khmer population. They are the ones most affected by all the change. Businesses get shut down on the beaches, the small shops outside buildings, the small cafes.
I have friends in PP who spent holidays in SHV but now either the guesthouse is too expensive or they have no vacancies.
SNV was a place the average Khmer could visit. Now it is not.
Are they pissed off...................... yep

Yes, agree, what Khmers think an dhow it affects them is probably of more relevance...and that might affect what happens in the future.

Abc123 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:35 pm


In the past year, land prices in some prime spots have doubled

Try tripled.

I bought a block of land with some friends to do an apartment development in September 2016. I believe it is worth 3 times what we paid as st a couple of months ago. We are now planning on selling up and developing in an up-comming different location.

I made an offer on another property last year about september at $150/sqm (it was worth $175 IMHO), now IMHO they would get $400/sqm for it.

I value property for a living.


The market is nuts.